2020/2021 line up

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  1. Sweatred Registered User

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    I understand why DJ will use Arty/Ryan types as targets for the young kids. If they can’t outplay those types they are not ready to help this team win. At least DJ showed a willingness to bury Boedker as the 13 forward. I hope the kids outplay those guys and Arti can collect his $4 million from the players box (which is a good job most of us would love to have). If Arti is playing things aren’t going well for Norris/Brown.
     
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    DJ mentioned in one of his interviews that we were doing ok for goals against until a rash of injuries to our D happened, basically when we had both Goloubef and Englund in the lineup at the same time, we bled goals. Our Oct-Nov rate was pacing at about 25 fewer goals per 82 games than our full season which went of the rails in Dec Jan, at which time we picked up Reilly to try and mitigate things

    The issue obviously is a lack of quality call up options hurt us. Part of that was Wolanin being out all year, but we've also lost DeMelo

    So, with that in mind, comparing last year to next year (not necessarily the actual pairs);

    this past year vs Next year
    Chabot-Zaitsev vs Chabot-Zaitsev
    Hainsey-Brannstrom vs Brannstrom-Zub
    Boro-DeMelo vs Wolanin-Boro?

    Depth
    Goloubef vs Reilly
    Englund vs Jaros
    Jaros vs Englund
    Lajoie vs Thomson?
    ? vs Lajoie

    Assuming we sign Boro, we seem to be starting off with better depth, Goloubef was our 7th D last year, while this coming season it will be either Reilly, Brannstrom, Boro or Zub, which seems like an upgrade imo. There is however a big question mark surrounding Zub,

    We also lack the veteran presence, and I think DJ really emphasized what Hainsey brought, so we might see him, or a similar vet signed to bring in that element.
     
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    Yeah we didn’t see a lot of wins but I think we can all agree that the games were entertaining and they were more or less playing “the right way” which we haven’t seen consistently for a while now.
    I’m going to assume that has something to do with the presence of guys like hainsey and pageau.
    Need some vets in the lineup. It’s looking like an improved lineup though, agree.
     
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    Lafreniere - Eichel - Duclair
    Tkachuk - Brown - Batherson
    Forementon - White - Brown
    Balcers - Chlapik - Ryan

    Chabot - Zub
    Brannstrom - Tanev
    Wolanin - Zaitsev

    Hogberg
    Nilsson

    Kids gotta play sometime...
     
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    How you can have Eichel and keep all this player ?
     
  6. Que Ron Hainsey’s #1 fan

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    TEN ASSETS!!!
     
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    Duclair)))??? Send him away for a sack of pucks.
     
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    This will be alot easier to do after the draft. So much is going to change the future of this franchise based on what happens whenever the draft happens. I dont really see much of a point in predicting the lineup until we see what happens way too many variables at play.

    Next year to start this is what I expect to see the team start with. I think barring the inevitable injury to Anisimov one of L. Brown or Norris wins the third line center spot with Balcers as the extra. I think Formenton, Chlapik and Batherson all make the team.

    Tkachuk Tierney C. Brown
    Duclair Anisimov Ryan
    Formenton L. Brown/Norris Batherson
    Paul Chlapik Hawryluk
    Balcers

    Chabot Zaitsev
    Wolanin Zub
    Borowiecki Brannstrom
    Jaros

    Nilsson
    Hogberg
     
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    How much is this year's draft really going to impact the coming season's lineup though? I mean, sure if we get L
    Lafreniere, he can be added, and the same might be said for Byfield, but that's just one (or if we are extraordinarily lucky 2) spots in the lineup. Easy enough to adapt if we luck out.
     
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    I am expecting atleast one trade to be made at the draft and the possibility of Lafreniere but ignoring that this is what I expect to see.

    Tkachuk Tierney C. Brown
    Duclair Anisimov Ryan
    Formenton L. Brown/Norris Batherson
    Paul Chlapik Hawryluk
    Balcers

    Chabot Zaitsev
    Wolanin Zub
    Borowiecki Brannstrom
    Jaros

    Nilsson
    Hogberg
     
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    Tkachuk - Tierney - C. Brown
    Duclair - Norris - Ryan
    Formenton/Abramov/Balcers - L. Brown - Batherson
    Paul - Anisimov - White

    Chabot - Zaitsev
    Wolanin - Zub
    Borowiecki - Brannstrom/Hainsey
    Reilly

    Nilsson
    Hogberg

    L. Brown might not be ready, in which case Anisimov moves to 3rd line center and Paul to 4th line center.

    I see Formenton, Abramov and Balcers in a battle for 1 regular spot at forward plus for the 13th spare forward spot.

    Reilly makes the team because he has an NHL contract.

    Borowiecki gets signed for certain and I suspect DJ pushes hard for Hainsey, which would push Brannstrom to the AHL for further development.

    Zub might get moved down to 3rd pair.

    The only draft pick that might make the team would be Lafreniere. The others need to develop into men.
     
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    So White gets cut?
     
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    Shoot I knew I was missing someone.
     
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    Easy mistake ...
     
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    You never seem to forget him...:sarcasm:
     
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    Thats true .. I’m a little stung by the org’s poor player eval and poor use of cash ... that being said I understand why others can easily forget him.
     
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    With a bit more clarity on who we will be drafting, i could see 9 games of this to start the year...


    Tkachuk-Norris-Ryan
    Duclair-Stuetzle/Byfield-White
    Formenton-Perfetti/Rossi-Brown
    Paul-Tierney-Anisimov/Hawryluk

    Chabot-Zaitsev
    Wolanin-Zub
    Borowiecki-Brannstrom
    Jaros/Rielly

    Nilsson
    Hogberg

    Alternatively we pick Drysdale instead of Perfetti/Rossi and slot him in for a handful of games with Boro.
     
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    Oops. Plop him in White's spot and shift everyone else down.

    I definately have too many rookies in the lineup so some guys will rotate in i suspect until the 9 game trials are done.
     
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    I'm of the opinion every yr that the guys who have contracts will most likely play to start the season. Although as the season progresses if they can't get rid of a player who is not performing they will try & bury them in the AHL, or the press box until they can trade them or their contracts run out or eventually bought out. I also think that the lineup to start the 2021-2022 season will be different than the one ending next season. That season should have a few guys who will get drafted this yr plus others who are in the org & not yet on the team.

    To Start the Season: (definitely tanking again with this lineup)
    Tkachuk - White - Ryan
    Duclair - Tierny - C. Brown
    Paul - Anisimov - Balcers
    Hawryluk - Chlapik - Sabourin/UFA

    Chabot - Zaitsev (sadly this D looks terrible)
    Wolanin - Reilly
    Englund - Jaros/Zub (they might keep Boro after looking at this D)

    Nilsson - Hogberg

    After the Deadline: (seems like a better lineup to end the season)
    Tkachuk - White - Ryan
    Duclair - L. Brown - Batherson
    Formenton - Norris - C. Brown
    Paul - Chlapik - Kastelic/Sabourin

    Chabot - Zaitsev ( the D is bad no matter how you slice it)
    Wolanin - Zub/Brannstrom
    Englund - Jaros

    Hogberg - Daccord
    - this is why they may keep Anderson around or extend Nilsson rather than trade him to have some vet experience in net.
     
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    There's a lot to be decided before the drop of the puck next season. A lot of the decisions might be made as a result of how the different young players used this time off. With so many knocking on the door, only the best prepared kids survive

    Whatever the lineup is, i think we'll be stronger at forward, D and goaltending than this past season. We played at a 71.6 point pace and i think we'll improve on that by 10 points.
     
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    A lot of people here are sleeping on Jayce Hawryluk. I'm bullish on the guy. It wasn't the 7 points in 11 games it was the consistent effort that I believe will make him very popular with D.J. Smith. I consider him to be a better bet than Chlapik, Balcers, Abramov or Davidsson.
     
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    There’s not much to sleep on he’s a regular 4th liner at best. He was given good linemates and PP time on a team playing with 0 pressure which explains the production. It’s possible he ends up better than some of the guys you mentioned simply because they won’t all be NHLers. Balcers is miles ahead of Jayce though.
     
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    My guess to start the year:

    Tkachuk-Tierny-Batherson
    Stutzle-Norris-Duclair
    Brown-Anisimov-White
    Ryan-Hawryluck-Paul

    Chabot-Zaitsev
    Brannstrom-Wolanin
    Boroweicki-Zub
    Reilly

    Hogberg
    Nilsson
     
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    Tierney and the Isles 1st rounder will be packaged for a top 6 forward from a team that is in cap hell.
     
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