2019 Roster and Fantasy GM Thread III

[Frankie Blueberries]

I wonder if Pittsburgh would have any interest in re-acquiring Sutter, both are their bottom six centers are pending free agents and apparently Brassard might be on the move sometime in the next month, they always seem to up against the cap so that might pose a problem.

Sutter hasn't looked great this season but I have a feeling his perceived value has tanked to the point where it's impossible to recoup any sort of assets

Seems unlikely that the GM that has already traded Sutter away twice would look to acquire him. He does fit that need, but I'm not sure GM JR would be looking at Sutter as the ideal candidate given their history.

 

[Fire Benning]

This won't be taken well here, but I'd sell "high" on Virtanen right now for sure. He'd be a terrific McDavid linemate, so would ask high for Evan Bouchard but that's unlikely to happen.

If you can market him as Tom Wilson-lite to the right team, I bet his trade value is higher than we'd think. If the Islanders keep it up, would love to ask for Dobson, and adding something else (Goldobin + a pick from us and add Ho-Sang coming back??) to get there. Or maybe Myers from Philly if you can sell JV as a Simmonds "replacement".

I don't hate that but yeah you'd have to ask high and nothing less.

I like Virtanen as a player but there's a right deal to be made for quite a bit of this current Canucks roster.

 

[Fire Benning]

Seems unlikely that the GM that has already traded Sutter away twice would look to acquire him. He does fit that need, but I'm not sure GM JR would be looking at Sutter as the ideal candidate given their history.

That's a good point, he probably knows what he's dealing with and Sutter's subpar play this season likely won't help.

The problem is pretty much any team you could think of as someone who might be interested in Sutter is squished up against the cap.

 

[GetFocht]

looks like there is numerous interest for Virtanen league wide and Canucks are looking for defence in return.

 

[The don godfather]

looks like there is numerous interest for Virtanen league wide and Canucks are looking for defence in return.

We have matt grez . Interested ?

 

[GetFocht]

We have matt grez . Interested ?

no we don't need a smallish offensive defenceman.

 

[Superlative Soup]

Virtanen for Zadorov.

Zadorov-Tryamkin pairing would be fun.

 

[The don godfather]

no we don't need a smallish offensive defenceman.

We have zboril in ahl . He's physical and developing . He can also put some points on the board . A former 15th 1st round pick 2015. Better ?

 

[elitepete]

We have zboril in ahl . He's physical and developing . He can also put some points on the board . A former 15th 1st round pick 2015. Better ?

nope.

 

[kanuck87]

Trading Virtanen and Goldy for two defensemen to replace Pouliot and Gudbranson would make us a much better team.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Don’t see a logical trade to be had here

 

[PM]

I don’t believe the Zadorov rumour in the slightest unless there is some weird background thing like him thinking of going back to Russia. He played juniors in London and seems committed to the NHL so I think that’s pretty far fetched too. Seems made up and most Avs fans love him.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Virtanen for Zadorov.

Zadorov-Tryamkin pairing would be fun.

I've never been a fan of Zadarov's game. The Canucks need a thinker on D. Someone that can handle top4 minutes without needing a baby sitter. Perhaps Fabbro makes sense?

It's really a difficult trade to make because you wonder where Virtanen will end up settling long-term? I think VancityLuongo has the right idea in targeting Bouchard and Dobson, but I suspect that these are non-starters from EDM and NYI. No interest in Myers.

Keep Virtanen... for now.

 

[Addison Rae]

Yikes Zadorov's advanced stats are absolutely garbage, visually I thought he was a solid player, especially last season but after I did my due diligence there's no chance in hell I make the deal.

I like Andreas Johnsson from Toronto, what's the asking price for him?

 

[vancityluongo]

No interest in Myers.

Keep Virtanen... for now.

Really? Can't say I've tracked him all that closely, but his AHL stats look pretty good for a second year pro who is more of a shutdown guy than anything else. Good skater, seems to be stuck in the AHL behind a really good group of young defense (Provorov, Sanheim, Ghost, and Morin in the AHL) so might actually be available.

I think he'd be a terrific long term Tanev replacement.

And actually, I'm glad to see the JV rumour because I think the time to trade him is now. There's still a lot of buzz behind his hot start to the year and especially amongst GM's yearning for the potential of a breakout from a 22 year old power forward. I just don't think he'll ever get to that level. Even if he does, if you're getting a (younger), potential top pairing defenseman back, that's a terrific bet to make. I don't even know if he'll actually consistently ever really play at the level he was at to start the year.

Execute the reverse age gap strategy with Virtanen.

 

[clunk]

Yikes Zadorov's advanced stats are absolutely garbage, visually I thought he was a solid player, especially last season but after I did my due diligence there's no chance in hell I make the deal.

I like Andrea Johnsson from Toronto, what's the asking price for him?

Isn't he a winger?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Yikes Zadorov's advanced stats are absolutely garbage, visually I thought he was a solid player, especially last season but after I did my due diligence there's no chance in hell I make the deal.

I like Andrea Johnsson from Toronto, what's the asking price for him?

They’re competing so probably a similar more experienced forward (Granlund?) or they’d look to move him in a package for a dman.

 

[Addison Rae]

Isn't he a winger?

Yes, a speedy winger with decent production who's worked well with some of the Leafs top players.

Would kick tires on him, especially if he prices himself out of Toronto.

 

[Josepho]

Myers for Virtanen would be a very interesting gamble...

 

[Addison Rae]

They’re competing so probably a similar more experienced forward (Granlund?) or they’d look to move him in a package for a dman.

Why on earth would they move him for Granlund, dude?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Why on earth would they move him for Granlund, dude?

Doubt they would; but just a swap for a more veteran player was the point I was trying to make. They probably just hang on to him unless it’s a package deal for a dman

 

[Bleach Clean]

Really? Can't say I've tracked him all that closely, but his AHL stats look pretty good for a second year pro who is more of a shutdown guy than anything else. Good skater, seems to be stuck in the AHL behind a really good group of young defense (Provorov, Sanheim, Ghost, and Morin in the AHL) so might actually be available.

I think he'd be a terrific long term Tanev replacement.

And actually, I'm glad to see the JV rumour because I think the time to trade him is now. There's still a lot of buzz behind his hot start to the year and especially amongst GM's yearning for the potential of a breakout from a 22 year old power forward. I just don't think he'll ever get to that level. Even if he does, if you're getting a (younger), potential top pairing defenseman back, that's a terrific bet to make. I don't even know if he'll actually consistently ever really play at the level he was at to start the year.

Execute the reverse age gap strategy with Virtanen.

Whoops, I thought you meant Tyler Myers there. I should have realized that when you suggested Bouchard and Dobson that you were not referring to the veteran Myers.

Yes, Philip Myers makes a lot of sense.

Basically, if they get a good potential RHD, consider trading Virtanen. Until such time, forget about it.

 

[Bleach Clean]

For those that haven't heard it yet, Botchford said that he heard that there is interest in re-signing both Edler and Tanev.

Basically, the organization is concerned over Juolevi's development and they want to hedge their bets. And so, with at least 6m+ AAV going to each player, what does that do to the cap space? Further, what does this mean for a Markstrom re-signing given that Demko doesn't have an NHL track record?

I knew that they would head into this direction. It was predictable. When your pro scouting is this bad and you have to compete while changing your defense, the logical move is to re-sign your best defenders.

 

[DomY]

For those that haven't heard it yet, Botchford said that he heard that there is interest in re-signing both Edler and Tanev.

Basically, the organization is concerned over Juolevi's development and they want to hedge their bets. And so, with at least 6m+ AAV going to each player, what does that do to the cap space? Further, what does this mean for a Markstrom re-signing given that Demko doesn't have an NHL track record?

I knew that they would head into this direction. It was predictable. When your pro scouting is this bad and you have to compete while changing your defense, the logical move is to re-sign your best defenders.

I think they're both in the $5.5 range max. But if you're committing $12m to Edler and Tanev, which is only $2.55m more than they are currently making, you make that up by not re-signing Gagner. A further cut would be to trade Hutton or Stetcher. Not that hard to make up the money.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I think they're both in the $5.5 range max. But if you're committing $12m to Edler and Tanev, which is only $2.55m more than they are currently making, you make that up by not re-signing Gagner. A further cut would be to trade Hutton or Stetcher. Not that hard to make up the money.

...So in order to re-sign your top2 Dmen you trade one of your top4 Dmen? How is this making the team better again in terms of net gain?

Edler signed for 7.78% of the cap in 2013-14. At the very basic level of understanding, that same contract would be $6.5m AAV now. This is without negotiation regarding ice time, role on the team, PPG among the defense and the scarcity of assets in FA. Age will be a factor against, but there's far more in favour of Edler making 6m and more rather than him taking a 500k pay increase for his retirement contract. 5.5 max seems like a pipe dream.