2019 Entry Draft Thread: Part IV

[NotProkofievian]

I still want to go back and see more of him without Dorofeyev, the one game I did watch when Pavel was up I found him just okay.

Why would you want to watch a game without Dreamboatfeyev?

 

[G0bias]

Speaking of 5 nations, I'm here trying to watch like

 

[NotProkofievian]

Speaking of 5 nations, I'm here trying to watch like

Yeah I'm just using my time to watch other games now.

 

[Mrb1p]

Habs are in excellent position to draft a Q-boy in the 1st round this season. Raphãel Lavoie, Nathan Légaré and Samuel Poulin are 3 that should be drafted between 20th-29th pick. I would love to package a 2nd or a 3rd to move higher and make sure we don't miss out.

It's 100% sure that there's going to be a player that is better or equal around where the Habs will draft, makes no sense to trade a draft pick so that we can get a Q guy.

 

[Mrb1p]

Whats up with the 5-nation ? I don't have any time to watch it because it's mid-term here.

I'm also still not sure on Tomasino, first round ? Really ? There seems to be a lot of players that have a better skill package than him in the top 30.

From what I've seen Tomasino gave me some Hartman vibe, which is not a bad player to draft later in the first round, mind you, especially if you're going to draft a 6'6 mammoth who wouldn't win a foot race with a timbit hockey player, but I have to think there's more somewhere ?

I don't agree at all with the Ylonen comparison, to me it stops on skating alone, Ylonen just has a lot more skills in his tool box, his shortcoming is the unwillingness to use those efficiently.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Whats up with the 5-nation ? I don't have any time to watch it because it's mid-term here.

I'm also still not sure on Tomasino, first round ? Really ? There seems to be a lot of players that have a better skill package than him in the top 30.

From what I've seen Tomasino gave me some Hartman vibe, which is not a bad player to draft later in the first round, mind you, especially if you're going to draft a 6'6 mammoth who wouldn't win a foot race with a timbit hockey player, but I have to think there's more somewhere ?

I don't agree at all with the Ylonen comparison, to me it stops on skating alone, Ylonen just has a lot more skills in his tool box, his shortcoming is the unwillingness to use those efficiently.

Look at him more closely when you have a chance. He has way more skills than you give him credit for.

 

[Mrb1p]

Look at him more closely when you have a chance. He has way more skills than you give him credit for.

What does he do that is likely to translate into a first line forward ? He's fast, has good hands and his shot is good but not great. That's what I've seen. When you have players like Robertson, Dorofeyev, Afanasyev, Rees, Caufield, Matrosimone, and thats just for forwards, without mentioning any of the top 20ish ones.

What he does have though is a knack for playing at high speed with high pace and I love that.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Whats up with the 5-nation ? I don't have any time to watch it because it's mid-term here.

I'm also still not sure on Tomasino, first round ? Really ? There seems to be a lot of players that have a better skill package than him in the top 30.

From what I've seen Tomasino gave me some Hartman vibe, which is not a bad player to draft later in the first round, mind you, especially if you're going to draft a 6'6 mammoth who wouldn't win a foot race with a timbit hockey player, but I have to think there's more somewhere ?

I don't agree at all with the Ylonen comparison, to me it stops on skating alone, Ylonen just has a lot more skills in his tool box, his shortcoming is the unwillingness to use those efficiently.

I'd actually recommend watching the most recent Sarnia game if you get a chance, because I largely had the same impression until watching that game. I deemed him ''frenetic and not terribly effective.'' Which is an opinion that I no longer hold.

 

[Mrb1p]

I'd actually recommend watching the most recent Sarnia game if you get a chance, because I largely had the same impression until watching that game. I deemed him ''frenetic and not terribly effective.'' Which is an opinion that I no longer hold.

Will try. I guess the next question would be, is he consistent enough in his play ? Because through three games Ive seen him split defenses and all, but I haven't seen NHL offense level from him, you know, the smart kind, not the Drouin kind, because he can do that for sure.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

What does he do that is likely to translate into a first line forward ? He's fast, has good hands and his shot is good but not great. That's what I've seen. When you have players like Robertson, Dorofeyev, Afanasyev, Rees, Caufield, Matrosimone, and thats just for forwards, without mentioning any of the top 20ish ones.

What he does have though is a knack for playing at high speed with high pace and I love that.

How about the non stop motor?

Top end talent is not everything you need to look at talent and dedication.

Tomasino reminds me of Gallagher, Marchand and yes these type of player are way valuable to a contender team.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Will try. I guess the next question would be, is he consistent enough in his play ? Because through three games Ive seen him split defenses and all, but I haven't seen NHL offense level from him, you know, the smart kind, not the Drouin kind, because he can do that for sure.

Yeah that's generally the question. If you judged Olofsson by his best games last year you should have had him as a top 15 guy. But watching him on a consistent basis it was pretty clear he didn't belong there.

 

[Mrb1p]

How about the non stop motor?

Top end talent is not everything you need to look at talent and dedication.

Tomasino reminds me of Gallagher, Marchand and yes these type of player are way valuable to a contender team.

I already acknowledged the non-stop motor, but that doesn't make you a top line forward. Marchand is highly skilled as a goal scorer and a playmaker, Gallagher is underrated as a goal scorer and he's one of the most elusive puck carrier Ive seen in my life. Tomasino could very well be Gallagher, but Ive never seen him beat a goalie cleanly like Gallagher has done in the past.

 

[Habs76]

Anyone have rosters for the 5 Nations? Haven't seen any games yet but figured I'd catch a few.

 

[NotProkofievian]

If we're talking about elusive puck carriers, and I'm not sure why we would be when discussing Gallagher, Massimo Rizzo deserves a mention. He reminds me of Gomez with his puck carrying ability.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Anyone have rosters for the 5 Nations? Haven't seen any games yet but figured I'd catch a few.

If you go to the thread there's some scattered rosters but some of them don't have numbers. Off the top of my head

Finland

11 - Puistola
15 - Suomela
26 - Tieksola

Russia

16 - Nikolayev
18 - Spiridonov
19 - Podkolzin

 

[Habs76]

If you go to the thread there's some scattered rosters but some of them don't have numbers. Off the top of my head

Finland

11 - Puistola
15 - Suomela
26 - Tieksola

Russia

16 - Nikolayev
18 - Spiridonov
19 - Podkolzin

Noice. Thanks.

 

[covfefe]

If we're talking about elusive puck carriers, and I'm not sure why we would be when discussing Gallagher, Massimo Rizzo deserves a mention. He reminds me of Gomez with his puck carrying ability.

He's really smooth, going to watch him live tomorrow night. Can report back a bit. I thought he would take off this year but it seems like he's having some lingering injury issues.

 

[G0bias]

Anyone have rosters for the 5 Nations? Haven't seen any games yet but figured I'd catch a few.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Kaliyev now has 41 goals 40 assists in 52 games... I wonder if a team in the top-10 will think about taking him early

 

[Stive Morgan]

I think some people are skeptical of Brayden Tracey being carried by Josh Brook. But the thing is, if they have that good chemistry together, why not keep them together in MTL? If a 17-year-old is putting up 1.14 PPG he's obviously doing something right. He looks even better when you actually watch him too. People have him ranked like 70-140 but personally I'd take him as early as 30 or 40.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I think some people are skeptical of Brayden Tracey being carried by Josh Brook. But the thing is, if they have that good chemistry together, why not keep them together in MTL? If a 17-year-old is putting up 1.14 PPG he's obviously doing something right. He looks even better when you actually watch him too. People have him ranked like 70-140 but personally I'd take him as early as 30 or 40.

I wouldn't describe myself as skeptical of Tracey. More like Tracey curious.

 

[NotProkofievian]

We should be so lucky to draft this kid.

 

[TT1]

1st mock of the year is pretty much done: 2019 7-Round Mock Draft 1.0 (All GMs see post #552)

1(20): Matthew Robertson
2(51): Jordan Spence
2(54): Jamieson Rees
3(82): Alex Beaucage
4(113): Yegor Serdyuk
4(123): Josh Nodler
5(126): Ryan Siedem
5(135): Zac Jones
6(175): Christopher Merisier-Ortiz
7(215): Jack Malone

 

[L4br3cqu3]

1st mock of the year is pretty much done: 2019 7-Round Mock Draft 1.0 (All GMs see post #552)

1(20): Matthew Robertson
2(51): Jordan Spence
2(54): Jamieson Rees
3(82): Alex Beaucage
4(113): Yegor Serdyuk
4(123): Josh Nodler
5(126): Ryan Siedem
5(135): Zac Jones
6(175): Christopher Merisier-Ortiz
7(215): Jack Malone

Really like Beaucage in the 3rd round, I think he's underrated big time.

Also, is it really '99 D Jack Malone, in the 7th round, or '00 F John Malone ? (cause if John, could be one great sleeper pick)

 

[Andrei79]

Beating goalies in general is probably more a function of getting them off their angle than anything else, unless we're talking Laine or Ovechkin level releases. That's the biggest reason why Matthews scores so much: goalies are just not square to his shot, which kinda implies that he gets it off quickly.

This is exactly it, actually. NHLers rarely beat goaltenders clean. If you look at replays, they're always putting deception on their shots by using shot strides from both legs and/or changing the angle of their shots. Laine, Matthews and Ovechkin do it on another level on top of having wristers/snaps that are basically accurate slap shots.

And good to know people are about 4 months late on Dorofeyev