2019 Entry Draft Thread: Part III

[Mrb1p]

What about Thomas Harley?

I like him, too. I don't know who I'd rank ahead.

I'm a sucker for the younger player in the draft, and at face value, he looks good. Harley does seem to get a lot of ice-time and he gets to play with Tippett and McLoed on the PP, which may or may not (Haven't looked at his numbers.) his point totals... I think he may not be the offensive contributor Thompson is. However, he's fantastic defensively, when asked to play defense, he has that Subban ability to just turn it up a notch and dominate people in his zone.

I've seen him once this year, and a few times in the PO last year, where he was great, but I'm not sure I'd spend anything more than a 20-30 pick on him.

Overall, I'm not sure if I prefer Constantinou or Brewer to him.... I'll have to look into it more.


Edit: just checked, and he has 10 points on the PP this year, 6 primary points... Doesn't seem so bad overall.

 

[The Great Weal]

I really hope we get an Islanders scenario. Come out of the draft with Turcotte and Newhook.

 

[Mrb1p]

I really hope we get an Islanders scenario. Come out of the draft with Turcotte and Newhook.

Thatd be amazing TBH. Hope Juulsen comes back so Bergevin can sell Petry to the highest bidder for a first.

 

[sandviper]

I really hope we get an Islanders scenario. Come out of the draft with Turcotte and Newhook.

We’d be a bit top heavy but I’d be down for that.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

We’d be a bit top heavy but I’d be down for that.

That’s where you play to your advantage and trade an area where you have a big surplus to fill holes elsewhere.

If we keep sliding we may be looking at lucking our way into the top-5 anyways at this point.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I’d be pretty surprised if we finish bottom 10 despite the 5 losses in a row. I think we finish in the 10-20 range.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I’d be pretty surprised if we finish bottom 10 despite the 5 losses in a row. I think we finish in the 10-20 range.

I would not be surprised. There are better team than us behind and the difference between the bottom 5 and mid 15-20 is closer than ever.

 

[G0bias]

I wouldn't, team was barely holding its head above water in that first stretch and the Met is slowly getting their legs back.

 

[bopeep]

I like him, too. I don't know who I'd rank ahead.

I'm a sucker for the younger player in the draft, and at face value, he looks good. Harley does seem to get a lot of ice-time and he gets to play with Tippett and McLoed on the PP, which may or may not (Haven't looked at his numbers.) his point totals... I think he may not be the offensive contributor Thompson is. However, he's fantastic defensively, when asked to play defense, he has that Subban ability to just turn it up a notch and dominate people in his zone.

I've seen him once this year, and a few times in the PO last year, where he was great, but I'm not sure I'd spend anything more than a 20-30 pick on him.

Overall, I'm not sure if I prefer Constantinou or Brewer to him.... I'll have to look into it more.


Edit: just checked, and he has 10 points on the PP this year, 6 primary points... Doesn't seem so bad overall.

I'm terrible at player comparisons, but after watching the televised game this weekend Harley reminded me of a young Big Bird - especially in his ability to change the tempo of the game when he has possession of the puck

 

[Mrb1p]

I'm terrible at player comparisons, but after watching the televised game this weekend Harley reminded me of a young Big Bird - especially in his ability to change the tempo of the game when he has possession of the puck

Yeah lets relax on that one

Id say hes a bit like Juulsen, with a bit less mobility.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I wouldn't, team was barely holding its head above water in that first stretch and the Met is slowly getting their legs back.

I've been looking and really outside of St Louis and LA, we are close to the bottom and you've gotta think that St Louis and LA aren't as bad as they are right now. I'd expect them to rise and few others to fall back. We will see.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I wouldn't, team was barely holding its head above water in that first stretch and the Met is slowly getting their legs back.

And we've played a lot of games, so we're not actually clear of about 4 teams that are behind us in the standings. Our nose is slightly above water right now, but the water is deeper now than it was last year. Philly is only 2 games below 0.500, and we're only 2 games over.

It's a precarious position to be in for this young team.

 

[Mrb1p]

I've been looking and really outside of St Louis and LA, we are close to the bottom and you've gotta think that St Louis and LA aren't as bad as they are right now. I'd expect them to rise and few others to fall back. We will see.

The Kings are absolutely dreadful, like worst team in the league bad, theres no way they dont finish top 10.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The Kings are absolutely dreadful, like worst team in the league bad, theres no way they dont finish top 10.

They been awful and Willie is a terrible coach, all really depends on what happens when Quick gets back.. but that's definitely a team that's going through the Chicago decline.

 

[Mrb1p]

They been awful and Willie is a terrible coach, all really depends on what happens when Quick gets back.. but that's definitely a team that's going through the Chicago decline.

Theyre worst than Chicago IMO. Top it all off with dumbass moustache behind the net and youre set for a nice pick.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Despite losing last night, we’re going to be skit better on the PP and defensively now that Weber is back.

 

[Kotkaniemi15]

If we have the choice between Cozens and Dach, who do you guys pick?

Dach

 

[Kotkaniemi15]

Between Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, Poehling, Ylönen, Juulsen, Mete, Brook, Fleury, Romanov and guys like Domi, Drouin and Gallagher, the future is bright. Getting one of Hughes/Kakko/Dach to add to that group would be amazing. We'd have the makings for a legitimate cup contender with all that talent. I'd much rather tank than just miss the playoffs and pick mid round even thought it's a strong draft.

 

[FrankMTL]

Between Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, Poehling, Ylönen, Juulsen, Mete, Brook, Fleury, Romanov and guys like Domi, Drouin and Gallagher, the future is bright. Getting one of Hughes/Kakko/Dach to add to that group would be amazing. We'd have the makings for a legitimate cup contender with all that talent. I'd much rather tank than just miss the playoffs and pick mid round even thought it's a strong draft.

Agreed. I also think this draft will be huge for us not only for the fact we should have a pretty high first round pick, but also that with the right moves by MB, we should be able to pick up a few more moderately high draft picks to add to our stable of young players.

 

[TT1]

Whens the last time a center slid though?

Barzal

 

[Goldenhands]

I’d be pretty surprised if we finish bottom 10 despite the 5 losses in a row. I think we finish in the 10-20 range.

Its hard to predict with all those injuries in the league, we only lost Armia and Byron and it hurt alot, if we lose a guy like Domi ,Drouin or Price for a long stretch, we are basically done but I would tend to agree with you that the Habs are unlikely to draft top 10 at this point with Weber back...

 

[Goldenhands]

Dachs release is quicker while Kotkas shot is heavier.

Think Kotkaniemi will score more goals and make more plays when he gets stronger.

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[DramaticGloveSave]

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Kotka has alot to work on (skating, balance, strength, release) but all are things he should be able to cleanup. Definitely an interesting case study and excited to watch his development.

 

[covfefe]

What do you all think of Mikko Kokkonen? Haven't been able to watch him this year, but I liked him at the U-18s, and his numbers so far are very impressive as a 17 year old playing against men.

Should be an interesting guy to watch as he's a LD.

 

[Habs76]

What do you all think of Mikko Kokkonen? Haven't been able to watch him this year, but I liked him at the U-18s, and his numbers so far are very impressive as a 17 year old playing against men.

Should be an interesting guy to watch as he's a LD.

I really like his two-way play. The fact that he's able to compete physically against pros at that size is huge, but it's also a question mark as it means he's mostly physically developed. Having been playing in the Liiga last season, Kokkonen is ahead of most in his development curve. I don't think he has top pairing potential, as a lack of size and skating are a huge detriment to any player, though his skating is much improved this year in comparison to last. I like him in the 15-30 range, just don't expect his development to reflect his Liiga stats.