2019-2020 Tank Thread

[raideralex99]

No need to tank. Ask the Oilers and Devils ... number #1 picks are useless if you have poor coaches/management.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

No need to tank. Ask the Oilers and Devils ... number #1 picks are useless if you have poor coaches/management.

Would you rather have #1 or #15?

 

[MardyBum]

Byfield is tearing up the OHL. he's a 6'4" C, and he's 10 months younger than Lafreniere, Need to see how the season plays out, but he should certainly be in consideration for #1.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Byfield is tearing up the OHL. he's a 6'4" C, and he's 10 months younger than Lafreniere, Need to see how the season plays out, but he should certainly be in consideration for #1.

So we won't get him as the wild are choking like champs. Wonder who the best centre/d we likely can get in draft.

 

[Jetabre]

So we won't get him as the wild are choking like champs. Wonder who the best centre/d we likely can get in draft.

I'm not too 2020 draft savvy yet, but initial glance makes me feel like the top 10 will be pretty stacked with talent.

 

[tntkid]

If the Blues can suck ass for half a season and win a stanley cup anything is possible with the proper leadership and coaching.

We are not dead yet.

 

[Guffman]

No need to tank. Ask the Oilers and Devils ... number #1 picks are useless if you have poor coaches/management.

Fortunately, the Jets coaches/management nail their first round picks a develop them well.

 

[blueandgoldguy]

Fortunately, the Jets coaches/management nail their first round picks a develop them well.

Let's wait and see what happens with Roslovic, Stanley and Vesalainen before making that claim.

As for the Jets, even if Buff announcing his comeback in the next few weeks, I suspect it will take until close to the midway point of the season before he is in game shape and contributing at levels we have been accustomed...several weeks to get into game shape at practice...a few weeks in the AHL...several weeks in the NHL.

I'll stick with my prognostication of 85-87 points for the Jets with a 7th to 10th worst record in the league. The lottery balls will really have to favour us as they did in 2016 to get a top-2 pick.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

So we won't get him as the wild are choking like champs. Wonder who the best centre/d we likely can get in draft.

Don't forget the lottery.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Let's wait and see what happens with Roslovic, Stanley and Vesalainen before making that claim.

As for the Jets, even if Buff announcing his comeback in the next few weeks, I suspect it will take until close to the midway point of the season before he is in game shape and contributing at levels we have been accustomed...several weeks to get into game shape at practice...a few weeks in the AHL...several weeks in the NHL.

I'll stick with my prognostication of 85-87 points for the Jets with a 7th to 10th worst record in the league. The lottery balls will really have to favour us as they did in 2016 to get a top-2 pick.

I clicked "like" above and then had the identical thought.
About those 3 guys, that is.

 

[Duke749]

Don't forget the lottery.

Gonna need lottery luck regardless. Too much talent to be too low but missing the playoffs is definitely possible.

 

[FonRiesen]

If the Blues can suck ass for half a season and win a stanley cup anything is possible with the proper leadership and coaching.

We are not dead yet.

So let's tank until Maurice gets fired - either way, that may be the only path to the Stanley Cup!

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

If the Blues can suck ass for half a season and win a stanley cup anything is possible with the proper leadership and coaching.

We are not dead yet.

Did you get lost on the way to the positivity thread?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Gonna need lottery luck regardless. Too much talent to be too low but missing the playoffs is definitely possible.

We have some good talent, but so do most of the other bad teams. But we have a lot of holes, just like they do. There are 2-3 teams that will compete for dead last. We aren't with them, but could easily finish 5th-8th from the bottom. Not predicting that. I think 12th is more likely, but lower could happen.

 

[Andreas Ferrari]

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Busting for Byfield™

 

[snowkiddin]

Nope. That's not what I'm talking about. I pay very little attention to those pundits. I give you Liljegren and Chychrun as recent examples of consensus #1 picks who fell to mid 1st rd. It happens often.

Neither of those two were consensus 1OA picks and it’s disingenuous to suggest them as such.

If the draft is today, you take Lafreniere, no doubt about it. But of course things can change. I’m not saying it’s impossible for Byfield to pass him.

 

[Guffman]

Let's wait and see what happens with Roslovic, Stanley and Vesalainen before making that claim.

Why not add Ville too?

Why not compile a list of the teams with the best track record at drafting? Betcha the Jets would be rated Top 5.

 

[Teemusalami204]

Why not add Ville too?

Why not compile a list of the teams with the best track record at drafting? Betcha the Jets would be rated Top 5.

Just because Chevy nails first round picks doesnt mean we are amazing at drafting. Copp and Lowry are the only players outside the first round that make a difference on this team from the past 8 years. Helly doesnt count in my opinion as goalies are almost always drafted in late rounds.

When we get a Braden point. Or a datsyuk or zetterberg type of steal then I will say we are great

 

[Guffman]

Just because Chevy nails first round picks doesnt mean we are amazing at drafting. Copp and Lowry are the only players outside the first round that make a difference on this team from the past 8 years. Helly doesnt count in my opinion as goalies are almost always drafted in late rounds.

When we get a Braden point. Or a datsyuk or zetterberg type of steal then I will say we are great

I’d rather nail those first round draft picks than get lucky over players that were passed over by every NHL team several times.

Cool, so some random third rounder fluked into a super star. Is that really the mark of a great drafting team?

 

[Channelcat]

So let's tank until Maurice gets fired - either way, that may be the only path to the Stanley Cup!

But Huddy will stay obviously

again.

 

[scelaton]

Just because Chevy nails first round picks doesnt mean we are amazing at drafting. Copp and Lowry are the only players outside the first round that make a difference on this team from the past 8 years. Helly doesnt count in my opinion as goalies are almost always drafted in late rounds.

When we get a Braden point. Or a datsyuk or zetterberg type of steal then I will say we are great

Yeah, that's fair--Helle doesn't count, but Datsyuk and Zetterberg--both of whom were drafted over 20 years ago--do.
The Jets have only been drafting since 2011 and more than 2/3 of their starting lineup against the Islanders was populated by their own draft choices, something very few teams can boast.

 

[FonRiesen]

But Huddy will stay obviously

again.

Probably true...

 

[Teemusalami204]

Yeah, that's fair--Helle doesn't count, but Datsyuk and Zetterberg--both of whom were drafted over 20 years ago--do.
The Jets have only been drafting since 2011 and more than 2/3 of their starting lineup against the Islanders was populated by their own draft choices, something very few teams can boast.

That's the jets choice by making the least trades in the NHL since their return. It isnt necessarily something to be proud of

 

[Teemusalami204]

I’d rather nail those first round draft picks than get lucky over players that were passed over by every NHL team several times.

Cool, so some random third rounder fluked into a super star. Is that really the mark of a great drafting team?

The teams that nail first round picks and have late round superstars is the mark of a great drafting team. Most teams nail their first round picks. That's why it stands out so much when there is first round busts

 

[Guffman]

The teams that nail first round picks and have late round superstars is the mark of a great drafting team. Most teams nail their first round picks. That's why it stands out so much when there is first round busts

Name five better drafting teams than the Jets. Whose roster is largely made up of their draft picks and what is the quality of those players relative to where they are selected?

Honestly, this is a losing argument for you if you’re trying to suggest that the Jets are not a good draft and develop franchise...

...but I welcome your attempt. Here’s some extra rope!