Speculation: 2019-2020 Sharks Roster Discussion, part три (3)

[weastern bias]

You are grasping at straws dude.

Lets get in a car accident because they are part of what happens when you drive. If you can prevent a calamity, you try to do that.

I had no honest clue what this post was trying to say until I noticed what you had bolded in the quote, lol

I'm not saying "let's go sign a crummy deal!", I'm just saying that all deals given, good or bad, contribute to the overall value at large

I have no dispute with anyone who doesn't want to sign Pavelski to this contract, I only dispute those that claim he signed for "market value" when he clearly could have signed for more

 

[Lebanezer]

You are correct.

There is no precedent for Pavelski taking less than this. He could have easily made more. It’s a very fair deal and maybe even a team-friendly one. It’s also going to end up badly for them.

Pavelski taking a team-friendly deal in Dallas, and Kevin Kurz reporting that he was never close with the Sharks should tell you everything you need to know. We never even offered him a team-friendly deal.

I think Doug probably offered him a very team friendly deal.

 

[Tw1ster]

As always, everything is quiet on the Sharks front. Wonder what “The Dentist” is up to. Surely he has a plan

 

[SharksAddict]

Calling it right now. DW signs either Perry or Chiasson. Need a right shot winger and both will be well within their limited budget. Can’t imagine either will be well received.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

I think Doug probably offered him a very team friendly deal.

Right, I worded that wrong. I meant a “reasonably team-friendly deal”. Will edit.

And by “reasonably team-friendly”, I’m thinking $6M/3Y or $7M/2Y.

 

[one2gamble]

Calling it right now. DW signs either Perry or Chiasson. Need a right shot winger and both will be well within their limited budget. Can’t imagine either will be well received.

I will still boo Perry even if he scores for us , f*** that guy

 

[weastern bias]

Plus they just used their first rounder on an elite potential goalie maybe 2-3 years from being ready. Strange.

They need someone to mentor Knight, you know, show him how to be a playoff choking headcase

 

[Alwalys]

Right, I worded that wrong. I meant a “reasonably team-friendly deal”. Will edit.

And by “reasonably team-friendly”, I’m thinking $6M/3Y or $7M/2Y.

you just said earlier you didn't think a $6m/3yr deal was in the offing.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

you just said earlier you didn't think a $6m/3yr deal was in the offing.

Yeah. I don’t. I’m saying that’s what they probably didn’t even offer.

They probably offered something unreasonably team friendly like $5M/2Y.

 

[KirbyDots]

As always, everything is quiet on the Sharks front. Wonder what “The Dentist” is up to. Surely he has a plan

Before recently DW would rarely do anything on July 1st. He'll probably just wait it out, sign some of our own guys. The Sharks are so silent right now though that you have to wonder what he has brewing. We need right wings, something's got to give.

 

[ChompChomp]

Calling it right now. DW signs either Perry or Chiasson. Need a right shot winger and both will be well within their limited budget. Can’t imagine either will be well received.

I'm fine trying Corey Perry on a try out basis, but definitely with most of the fan base he'd be the worst welcomed Shark, far worse than the massive negative overreaction when they traded for Raffi Torres.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I had no honest clue what this post was trying to say until I noticed what you had bolded in the quote, lol

I'm not saying "let's go sign a crummy deal!", I'm just saying that all deals given, good or bad, contribute to the overall value at large

I have no dispute with anyone who doesn't want to sign Pavelski to this contract, I only dispute those that claim he signed for "market value" when he clearly could have signed for more

If Pavs was coming off a 38 goal scorer and was 27/28, he would be getting upwards of 8M AAV or better. He would be getting offers similar to Skinner would. But given his age, I think his AAV is market value and the fact that he is getting more than 2 years makes his deal above market value to me.

 

[STL Shark]

Revisit this post in a year or two and you may be in for a good laugh.

I’ll go ahead and laugh at him/her now as that is just a dumb take. No need to wait a year or two.

 

[Harbessix]

Calling it right now. DW signs either Perry or Chiasson. Need a right shot winger and both will be well within their limited budget. Can’t imagine either will be well received.

I brought this up earlier but how about taking a chance on a guy like Noel Acciari?

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I'm fine trying Corey Perry on a try out basis, but definitely with most of the fan base he'd be the worst welcomed Shark, far worse than the massive negative overreaction when they traded for Raffi Torres.

I read somewhere on the main boards about Perry getting a 1 year deal for 3M. That would be too rich for my blood if true.

I would keep Perry and Patty around 1.5M and no more.

 

[SharksAddict]

I brought this up earlier but how about taking a chance on a guy like Noel Acciari?

Fine as a 4th line guy but they need top 9 potential minimum IMO, ideally top 6.

 

[KirbyDots]

It would be funny if with this one seemingly innocuous move the Lightning submarined themselves out of the playoffs.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Calling it right now. DW signs either Perry or Chiasson. Need a right shot winger and both will be well within their limited budget. Can’t imagine either will be well received.

That’s not going to happen. He knows he needs a real top line winger and not an overpaid bottom 6er at best.

It’ll probably be like last year where he did nothing all summer and everybody complained and then he got Karlsson before training camp. It won’t be a Karlsson level player but it’ll be an Ehlers level player or something.

 

[Harbessix]

Fine as a 4th line guy but they need top 9 potential minimum IMO, ideally top 6.

Makes sense, would love to pry Athanasiou out of Detroit.

 

[weastern bias]

I wouldn't even give Marleau more that 1 year $1 million

If he's serious about only wanting to play here he should prove it

If that doesn't work for him he can take his 25 points to LA or Anaheim for all I care, he left, the allegiances have been severed

I'm sure I'll be saying the same thing about Pavelski in 4 years

 

[OffSydes]

So many GMs keep any contact DW hands out from being mentioned in "bad contracts list"

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

@Doctor Soraluce

 

[SharksAddict]

Perry off the board so most of you can breathe easy. Heading to Dallas with Pavs.

 

[KirbyDots]

Fine as a 4th line guy but they need top 9 potential minimum IMO, ideally top 6.

Yep, ideally I'd want DW to trade for a top 6(Nyquist might work as well) and leave a spot open in the top 9 for one of the kids.

 

[ChompChomp]

The narrative being painted by many of the fan base is also funny and interesting. Hometown (drafted), heart and soul of the team who peaked at age 35 won't give team a hometown discount to keep a super team intact and is going to bolt to get paid ( although it definitely risks ending his career in Seattle), but the team is the bad guy.