2018 Roster and Fantasy GM Thread

[Addison Rae]

We’re going to make the playoffs in 2-3 years book it. JV is not even 23 years old yet. He’s going to have a big year next year just watch.

at least mchindu is funny

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

So in the end it will have been a 6 year rebuild? With Eriksson and Beagle still on the books? Gross.

 

[Horse McHindu]

So in the end it will have been a 6 year rebuild? With Eriksson and Beagle still on the books? Gross.

1) A successful rebuild should be about 5-7 yeas in length.

2) The Canucks started rebuilding in 2014 when they traded Luongo.

3) Many fans assume that retooling and rebuilding are completely different when in reality, a retool is simply a less aggressive form of a rebuild. Saying that, “we aren’t rebuilding......we are retooling” is akin to saying, “We don’t live in Canada......we live in BC.”

4) 2nd round picks and other picks were used to fill the much needed age gap on this team (and yes - this actually is “a thing” and is a very serious problem if you’re trying to inject 18-19 year old prospects into a team full of late 20/early 30’s guys).

5) none of our free agent signings have “held back” our kids so far, nor will any of these signings “hold back” younger players, when these younger players are ready for more responsibility.

6) Mentorship is a real thing and is extremely important.

7) Now that the Canucks have successfully filled the age gap (due to a combination of some of the players that the Canucks acquired for picks, and the aging of some of their own homegrown talent, the Canucks can place a bigger emphasis on drafting and developing.......which is how they have been trending recently).

I expect the Canucks to be a playoff team in 2019-2020 (1st round loss). 2020-2021 will be the year where they will be worthy of making the 2nd round.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

at least mchindu is funny

I hate when you comment **** like this. What's so bad about my post?

 

[Addison Rae]

I hate when you comment **** like this. What's so bad about my post?

because your post is based on wild hypotheticals.

you go from assuring the canucks will be a playoff team in a few years to essentially assuring that virtanen will be a “playoff performer”, again based on absolutely zero data.

 

[Horse McHindu]

because your post is based on wild hypotheticals.

you go from assuring the canucks will be a playoff team in a few years to essentially assuring that virtanen will be a “playoff performer”, again based on absolutely zero data.

If the Canucks aren't a playoff team in 2019/2020, I will become Caitlyn Jenner.

 

[member 290103]

1) A successful rebuild should be about 5-7 yeas in length.

2) The Canucks started rebuilding in 2014 when they traded Luongo.

3) Many fans assume that retooling and rebuilding are completely different when in reality, a retool is simply a less aggressive form of a rebuild. Saying that, “we aren’t rebuilding......we are retooling” is akin to saying, “We don’t live in Canada......we live in BC.”

4) 2nd round picks and other picks were used to fill the much needed age gap on this team (and yes - this actually is “a thing” and is a very serious problem if you’re trying to inject 18-19 year old prospects into a team full of late 20/early 30’s guys).

5) none of our free agent signings have “held back” our kids so far, nor will any of these signings “hold back” younger players, when these younger players are ready for more responsibility.

6) Mentorship is a real thing and is extremely important.

7) Now that the Canucks have successfully filled the age gap (due to a combination of some of the players that the Canucks acquired for picks, and the aging of some of their own homegrown talent, the Canucks can place a bigger emphasis on drafting and developing.......which is how they have been trending recently).

I expect the Canucks to be a playoff team in 2019-2020 (1st round loss). 2020-2021 will be the year where they will be worthy of making the 2nd round.

2) No they didn't. They have still not started rebuilding. You don't rebuild by acquiring veterans on bloated contracts and constantly talk about wanting to make the playoffs first and foremost.

3) Huh? That's a terrible analogy. A retool is keeping together most of your core, a rebuild is disassembling it.

4) The age cap is ridiculous. That's not why they acquired those players. See point 2). It was to make the playoffs.

5) I don't see how this could NOT be the case? Beagle will take the roster spot of a guy like Gaunce. Having to ice the likes of Gudbranson and Del Zotto would appear to take roster spots away from younger players that are probably just as defensively capable.

6) Agreed that it is valuable, but it should not be the prime driving consideration in assembling your roster - and it is for Linden.

7) LOL, right. I agree, Dim will go looking for picks the night before the draft next year and continue to trade them for shitty veteran talent in the interim.

 

[DFAC]

If the Canucks aren't a playoff team in 2019/2020, I will become Caitlyn Jenner.

Might want to take this back while you still can. I dont see us making the playoffs in 2-3 years at all with this mess of a lineup

 

[Horse McHindu]

Might want to take this back while you still can. I dont see us making the playoffs in 2-3 years at all with this mess of a lineup

Nope. Maybe I WANT to become Caitlyn Jenner. :p

 

[BROCK HUGHES]

So in the end it will have been a 6 year rebuild? With Eriksson and Beagle still on the books? Gross.

I looked at cap freindly,Does Beagle have a ntc as its not showing
Rousell do,es...i see that.

 

[BROCK HUGHES]

Nope. Maybe I WANT to become Caitlyn Jenner. :p

If she can score some goals,will put her in the line up,A jim benning pick for sure.....

 

[Horse McHindu]

If she can score some goals,will put her in the line up,A jim benning pick for sure.....

She would definitely bring some........tangibles?

 

[Melvin]

I looked at cap freindly,Does Beagle have a ntc as its not showing
Rousell do,es...i see that.

Smithers reported that both players had ntcs but I haven't seen it reported by anyone else. Still, given he's Linden's lapdog I don't doubt it.

 

[BROCK HUGHES]

This team is very silent at the moment,,we have cap,and are loaded with extra bodys,,,wonder whats going on at Rodgers,,,scary thoughts.

 

[Kryten]

If she can score some goals,will put her in the line up,A jim benning pick for sure.....

 

[krutovsdonut]

Smithers reported that both players had ntcs but I haven't seen it reported by anyone else. Still, given he's Linden's lapdog I don't doubt it.

it says this on cap friendly about beagle

"CLAUSE DETAILS: 2018-19 & 19-20: Player submits a 15 no team trade list. 2020-21 & 21-22: Player submits a 5 team no trade list."

 

[krutovsdonut]

This team is very silent at the moment,,we have cap,and are loaded with extra bodys,,,wonder whats going on at Rodgers,,,scary thoughts.

they are stalled on stecher and apparently also on virtanen. this team likes to get everyone signed quickly, doesn't bargain hard, and summer vacation starts soon, so i am mildly concerned on both counts.

i also assume they are waiting for quinn to decide. if he signs they will surely be making a move.

it is interesting to speculate whether these situations are connected. hockey etiquette says you try not to trade an rfa you just signed, or at the very least, that you have to be very business-like in the way you sign them and can't say stuff that implies they have a longterm future with the club.

so maybe there is a trade in waiting if quinn signs. patches perhaps.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

So, where do players not want to go these days? Other than Ottawa, that is.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

So, where do players not want to go these days? Other than Ottawa, that is.

Edmonton Bufallo Detroit Winnepeg

 

[tyhee]

I looked at cap freindly,Does Beagle have a ntc as its not showing
Rousell do,es...i see that.

It does show on Beagle's page on capfriendly, though it doesn't show on the Canucks' team page and even on Beagle's page it doesn't show in the "Clauses" column but only at the bottom of the contract details for his current contract.

From Beagle's page on capfriendly:

"CLAUSE DETAILS: 2018-19 & 19-20: Player submits a 15 no team trade list. 2020-21 & 21-22: Player submits a 5 team no trade list.
CLAUSE SOURCE: CapFriendly"

 

[rypper]

Roussel's NTC is this:

CLAUSE DETAILS: 2018-19: Player submits a 15 no team trade list. 2019-20 & 20-21: Player submits a 8 team no trade list. 2021-22: Player submits a 5 team no trade list.

 

[BROCK HUGHES]

Roussel's NTC is this:

CLAUSE DETAILS: 2018-19: Player submits a 15 no team trade list. 2019-20 & 20-21: Player submits a 8 team no trade list. 2021-22: Player submits a 5 team no trade list.

Well i guess its better then a full no movement,,,

 

[me2]

Nope. Maybe I WANT to become Caitlyn Jenner. :p

You aren't even on the Keeping Up with the Kardashians yet, you have no hope.

 

[ginner classic]

Instead of losing them on waivers for nothing due to idiocy:

Leipsic, Gaunce, Goldobin and Hutton (max retention) to Chicago for (your return here)

I would prefer it was Sutter, Granlund, MDZ and Baertschi but we don't deserve nice things.

 

[me2]

they are stalled on stecher and apparently also on virtanen. this team likes to get everyone signed quickly, doesn't bargain hard, and summer vacation starts soon, so i am mildly concerned on both counts.

i also assume they are waiting for quinn to decide. if he signs they will surely be making a move.

it is interesting to speculate whether these situations are connected. hockey etiquette says you try not to trade an rfa you just signed, or at the very least, that you have to be very business-like in the way you sign them and can't say stuff that implies they have a longterm future with the club.

so maybe there is a trade in waiting if quinn signs. patches perhaps.

Horvat signed in september. At least wait to august to panic.

Hughes has already talked about playing in the AHL this year. I'd assume he'd sign, more likely the team is ponder the best course of action for a dman that small. Any contract talk will consist of "rookie max, now write your preferred bonuses here, sign there."