2018 MLB off-season news & notes discussion thread

[tony d]

Something got to give soon. I think Harper or Machado sign a short term deal and take their chances in the next off season or 2.

 

[bleedblue1223]

It is crazy that they have signed or that Keuchel hasn't signed or Kimbrel hasn't signed. Keuchel is pretty overrated IMO and won't have a great future, but still. There needs to be some sort of pressure for these guys to sign. Either teams need to feel like they need to make offers or players need to be more realistic.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Something got to give soon. I think Harper or Machado sign a short term deal and take their chances in the next off season or 2.

I think that would still be foolish on their part. A huge injury would cost them tens of millions.

Nolan Arenado, Paul Goldschmidt, etc. (upper tier players that are free agents after 2019) should be paying close attention. If they're offered a huge deal during the season, they should probably take it.

 

[darko]

Something got to give soon. I think Harper or Machado sign a short term deal and take their chances in the next off season or 2.

No chance. If they don't get the deals they want they'll just sign the best longterm deal they can but will have an opt out in there somewhere. Why would you sign a 2 year deal when you can say an 8 year deal with an opt out after 2?

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[Terry Yake]

he was awful down the stretch

i really hope this doesn't mean they're done going after starters

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Anderson starts 2-3 games then hits the dl for 2-3 weeks. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Guy is unreliable and not very good. Assume he serves as nothing more than a cheap insurance policy/long guy.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

It is crazy that they have signed or that Keuchel hasn't signed or Kimbrel hasn't signed. Keuchel is pretty overrated IMO and won't have a great future, but still. There needs to be some sort of pressure for these guys to sign. Either teams need to feel like they need to make offers or players need to be more realistic.

I want to play on a contender.

I want to play on a contender and make the most money I can possibly get.

I want to play on a contender, make the most money I can possibly get, and have it be over a really long period of time.

I want a bidding war between the top teams where I make the most money I can possibly get, and have it be over a really long period of time.... and then also give me more money and an opt out clause.

 

[tony d]

Kuechel's another good name still out there. Such a great quality of players left on the market. Got to think something gives soon.

 

[Belieber]

Something will give whenever Scott Boras lets it give. He’s been playing these games for years. He knows he’s holding up the market but doesn’t care.

 

[Voight]

It is crazy that they have signed or that Keuchel hasn't signed or Kimbrel hasn't signed. Keuchel is pretty overrated IMO and won't have a great future, but still. There needs to be some sort of pressure for these guys to sign. Either teams need to feel like they need to make offers or players need to be more realistic.

Closers have lost a bit of importance the last couple years, teams just don't want to spend stupid money (aside from Chapman and I guess Melancon) on them. Especially considering a new elite closer seems to pop up out of nowhere every year.

 

[robert terwilliger]

Anderson starts 2-3 games then hits the dl for 2-3 weeks. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Guy is unreliable and not very good. Assume he serves as nothing more than a cheap insurance policy/long guy.

it's not the dl you insensitive jerk! it's the "needs a break" list.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

it's not the dl you insensitive jerk! it's the "needs a break" list.

I should know better, too. I just got my state injurability check last week.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

I don't see what the players are whining about. 10 year contracts are bad investments, teams have just gotten significantly smarter with how they use their money the players don't want to accept new economic realities

It would probably be better if the next CBA adopted a length cap of about 7 years then I think that would help move things a bit.

We also have an environment where half the league is not competing so why are those teams going to spend big?

 

[tony d]

Never liked those 10 yr. deals in any sport. Hockey moved away from them, I think baseball will as well.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Not exactly sure why, but the A's signed Robbie Grossman to a 1 yr/2m deal.

 

[Terry Yake]

Not exactly sure why, but the A's signed Robbie Grossman to a 1 yr/2m deal.

replacement for joyce?

or they plan on trading canha or fowler

 

[GordonGecko]

Wonder how all this plays out. I think Harper is landing in Philadelphia for sure but by some miracle of god the cash rich Phillies have decided not to bid against themselves. Nobody is giving away free multi tack-on years of $30M on the back end anymore, it's just not happening. Machado on the other hand, I have no idea where he is going. Yankees have Andujar so they aren't desperate and nobody else is going to go above low 200's for him.

Seems like the only possible conclusion is for these guys to settle for 6 or 7 year contracts, which will be at full price, and then get what they actually are worth after that time is up. These players have nothing to complain about, they need to stop being so greedy and get with the program

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

replacement for joyce?

or they plan on trading canha or fowler

Doesn't make a lot of sense. Laureano and Piscotty will play every day. That leaves Martini, Canha and Fowler to fill in (Canha can also play 1b). I don't see Grossman as an upgrade on any of those named, especially considering he's a terrible on the outfield.

If they just wanted to blow 2m they should have just re-signed Edwin Jackson.

 

[Terry Yake]

Doesn't make a lot of sense. Laureano and Piscotty will play every day. That leaves Martini, Canha and Fowler to fill in (Canha can also play 1b). I don't see Grossman as an upgrade on any of those named, especially considering he's a terrible on the outfield.

If they just wanted to blow 2m they should have just re-signed Edwin Jackson.

yeah its definitely a weird move. only explanation i can think of is they're planning on moving someone

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

yeah its definitely a weird move. only explanation i can think of is they're planning on moving someone

I would have preferred they just re-signed Jackson over either of these last 2 moves.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Now the A's have signed Cliff Pennington. Any other blasts from the past they want to re-sign?? Maybe Terrence Long wants to test Ichiro in Japan??

 

[Terry Yake]

Now the A's have signed Cliff Pennington. Any other blasts from the past they want to re-sign?? Maybe Terrence Long wants to test Ichiro in Japan??

daric barton is giddy right now. why not also bring back rosales for his 10th stint?

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

daric barton is giddy right now. why not also bring back rosales for his 10th stint?

Barton's bat will catch up to his glove at some point. I just know it!

 

[darko]

Barton had a 4.9 fWAR season. Just saying.