2018 MLB off-season news & notes discussion thread

[John Price]

 

[John Price]

Hoping this is the week Harper and Machado sign. Doesn't look good for the game that 2 top players are still unsigned going into February.

there really is no f***ing reason for the holdup. over 100 free agents are still unsigned. MAKE MOVES.

 

[John Price]

Longo is dead wrong about why players are making less in free agency. It's all the cba, not analytics.

How is this assessment false?

Why are you even bringing up the CBA

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

What is the point of your reply?

Analytics actually back up the fact players aren't getting paid enough. They aren't having any impact on teams waiting players out.

 

[robert terwilliger]

there's literally no incentive for teams to sign big money free agents any more. they all get about 100 million before they sell a ticket.

 

[Winger for Hire]

 

[robert terwilliger]

i mean, i understand it at a certain level. "we don't want to spend money because then we'd have less money overall than we had before" and the dodgers have spent a lot of money since the new owners came to town.

i don't fault big market teams as much for wanting to fall under the stupid cbt and reset their penalty structure. it's infuriating to hear like on the effectively wild podcast they talk about teams doing that to avoid "paying 12 million dollars in fines. i mean, it's only 12 million dollars" and i'm listening like "dude that's a lot of f***ing money that they're spending in addition to the money they're spending on the player to make the team better! it's a tax on a team for wanting to not be shitty!"

guys like nutting, jetes (and his conglomerate) and that should be forced to answer why they're not spending. there was an article on the athletic today again wondering why the pirates aren't spending any money. their payroll is like 79 million dollars and filled with pre arb players that everyone and their brother knows they sure as shit aren't going to pay.

 

[Blitzkrug]

there's literally no incentive for teams to sign big money free agents any more. they all get about 100 million before they sell a ticket.

I'd say trying to win is a big incentive but apparently teams don't seem to care about that.

 

[John Price]

there's literally no incentive for teams to sign big money free agents any more. they all get about 100 million before they sell a ticket.

Then when will Machado and Harper get paid?

 

[BKIslandersFan]

i mean, i understand it at a certain level. "we don't want to spend money because then we'd have less money overall than we had before" and the dodgers have spent a lot of money since the new owners came to town.

i don't fault big market teams as much for wanting to fall under the stupid cbt and reset their penalty structure. it's infuriating to hear like on the effectively wild podcast they talk about teams doing that to avoid "paying 12 million dollars in fines. i mean, it's only 12 million dollars" and i'm listening like "dude that's a lot of ****ing money that they're spending in addition to the money they're spending on the player to make the team better! it's a tax on a team for wanting to not be ****ty!"

guys like nutting, jetes (and his conglomerate) and that should be forced to answer why they're not spending. there was an article on the athletic today again wondering why the pirates aren't spending any money. their payroll is like 79 million dollars and filled with pre arb players that everyone and their brother knows they sure as **** aren't going to pay.

I genuinely think Marlins are bleeding money tbh. But I blame that on previous regime lying, scamming and not investing in the product.

 

[darko]

Then when will Machado and Harper get paid?

Do you have a Machado bobblehead?

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Do you have a Machado bobblehead?

They gave those out during the 7th inning stretch, so he was already long gone.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

This makes no sense. The Marlins have dragged this out...only to not get a top prospect?

 

[tony d]

I think the Reds could be a team to watch for this yr. Making a lot of good moves. They get Realmuto they could flirt with 90 wins.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

I think the Reds could be a team to watch for this yr. Making a lot of good moves. They get Realmuto they could flirt with 90 wins.

They've made good moves without giving up top-notch prospects. Acquiring Realmuto would change that.

 

[Preds Partisan]

I'm not giving up a top tier prospect to improve the catcher situation. Reds moves to date make them competitive enough to stop the attendance bleeding which is vital to the team. Realmuto doesn't push them over the top but kills their future given how few MLBers the Reds system has produced the last several years. They really need their top prospects to develop into cheap reliable everyday players. A starting pitcher maybe, but I'm not giving up quality propects for catcher.

 

[justafan22]

Blue Jays signed Freddy Galvis today

 

[rangerssharks414]

I think the Reds could be a team to watch for this yr. Making a lot of good moves. They get Realmuto they could flirt with 90 wins.

Not in that division. I'm confused as to what the Reds are doing this offseason. I get wanting to win while Votto is still really good, but I don't think it's time to try to win now. I'd "tank" for another high pick.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Not in that division. I'm confused as to what the Reds are doing this offseason. I get wanting to win while Votto is still really good, but I don't think it's time to try to win now. I'd "tank" for another high pick.

They're trying to be interesting enough to get butts in seats. They improved a little this offseason, but not enough to compete.

 

[rangerssharks414]

They're trying to be interesting enough to get butts in seats. They improved a little this offseason, but not enough to compete.

I get that they want to be respectable in terms of attendance, but teams with super high draft picks have been doing pretty well lately. I'd rather be picking in the top five than miss the playoffs with 75-80 wins.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

I get that they want to be respectable in terms of attendance, but teams with super high draft picks have been doing pretty well lately. I'd rather be picking in the top five than miss the playoffs with 75-80 wins.

I bet a lot of Reds fans would say they've been doing that for the past 20 years lol.

 

[Preds Partisan]

2018 Reds attendance dropped about 800,000 from 2015 levels and was the worst since 1984. Five top ten draft picks the last ten years for sucking. Ownership realized (finally) it takes more than fireworks and bobbleheads to keep Reds fans coming to the game. That's what all of these moves are doing, just giving a glimmer of hope.

 

[Voight]

Blue Jays signed Freddy Galvis today

#Shatkins strikes again

 

[robert terwilliger]

moving on up to the fourth best team in a division.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

If the rumors are true about the package the Marlins have been asking other teams for Realmuto, I'd be nervous if I were a Reds fan.