2018 Free Agent and Trade Discussion Thread: The Dogs Days are over

[KPower]

I’d do it...resign Stone, he’s better than Willie anyhow.

 

[Nithoniniel]

No offense, but that's about as dumb a move as we can make. A colossal waste of assets.

Your premise seem to be that with those two rentals, we'll win the cup. It doesn't work like that. People that have put a lot of research into that question talk about how even the best teams don't have more than 10-15% chance of winning the cup. There's too much parity, too much that can go wrong.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Just for fun I'm gonna post a random link

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/thre...ussion-thread-the-dogs-days-are-over.2523369/

 

[Antropovsky]

Thanks... was fun.

 

[Stephen]

If we wanted to trade Nylander to Ottawa, I'm sure it would have been for Karlsson.

 

[Budz22]

I’d do it...resign Stone, he’s better than Willie anyhow.

 

[nobody]

Not going to front, I am a huge fan of Mark Stone. I would happily trade Willie for him if Stone wasn't hunting for a massive pay-day. Duchene can go f*** himself. He bailed on the Avs and he deserves where he's at. Mr. "I want to win" is going to go to the highest bidder and play for a bottom feeder for the rest of his career. At least he'll be rich.

 

[Cor]

At least take me out to dinner first

 

[Marshy]

Stone with Matthews wouldn't be fair.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Stone with Matthews wouldn't be fair.

Matthews with Nylander also isn't fair. No.

 

[Crysis]

No offense, but that's about as dumb a move as we can make. A colossal waste of assets.

Your premise seem to be that with those two rentals, we'll win the cup. It doesn't work like that. People that have put a lot of research into that question talk about how even the best teams don't have more than 10-15% chance of winning the cup. There's too much parity, too much that can go wrong.

Not saying they should do this. Just kind of funny that Ottawa's top two UFA's combined work out to almost exactly our remaining cap space. They love Swedes too.

Duchene and Stone combined are MUCH better than Nylander. Would make this team absolutely stacked without comparison in the modern era - for one season anyway.

 

[AuraSphere]

Matthews and Stone together would be abolutely disgusting.

Stone > Nylander if he's resigned

 

[diceman934]

No and we do not have 13m and change to spend. We need to keep almost 5m to bay for this years bonuses as we can not afford to carry them forward as we up against the cap as it is. We have a little over 9m.

 

[Crysis]

No and we do not have 13m and change to spend. We need to keep almost 5m to bay for this years bonuses as we can not afford to carry them forward as we up against the cap as it is. We have a little over 9m.

If Stone, Duchene and Gardiner all walk at the end of the year we could afford it.

 

[34]

Matthews with Nylander also isn't fair. No.

This

 

[diceman934]

Matthews and Stone together would be abolutely disgusting.

Stone > Nylander if he's resigned

I disagree as Stones skating is going to become an issue like Perry. So Stone is not greater than Nylander

 

[diceman934]

If Stone, Duchene and Gardiner all walk at the end of the year we could afford it.

Wrong we can not afford the players bonuses to be carried forward. Gardiner is gone anyways so we can keep the rest of the team and with him is Haisney as well.

 

[sxvnert]

The value is not even close.

 

[diceman934]

Nylander is better than Stone. Stone brings more physical presence but not as skilled as Willy.

 

[Voodoo Child]

If Willy is truly hardballing for 8+ (and I don't think he is) and won't sign for a penny less than say 7.7, I would be in.

Stone is a defensively elite big body who scores at a higher rate. Matthews-Stone then Tavares-Marner? Get out of here. I'd definitely give him 7.7. On this day at least, Stone is better than Nylander.

We could then run a 3rd line of Kadri-Duchene and either flip Duchene at the deadline for a 1st+ or ride it into the playoffs to see what happens.

This being said, I think Willy gets 6.9-7.2 shortly.

 

[drewjenks]

He is...Stone is a PPG Selke candidate...

 

[HamiltonNHL]

how even the best teams don't have more than 10-15% chance of winning the cup. There's too much parity, too much that can go wrong.

This is the most important fact about winning a cup. You need a window of opportunity not a short term all in shot

 

[LeafShark]

I mean... What kind of rental do you even try to obtain? The 3rd line already has the talent of a 2nd line, and the 4th line has the talent of a 3rd line. The only thing I can think of is a #4 RHD.

 

[Boutette]

Ottawa would have to take Horton as well.

 

[The CyNick]

Trading out skill for size...in 2018. Yikes!