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All these guys went back to Junior/college
Bouchard has had the same amount of developmental years as these players
All these guys went back to Junior/college
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IIRC only Ekblad and Doughty stepped in right after being drafted though. Ghost and Werenski came in the year afterwards (D+2)
Ugh.... my Safari just crashed, like literally, as I was typing the last words of a post that went through every draft in the last 10 years. In 7 of those drafts at least one, and a couple times 2 or 3 guys stuck around in the NHL. No time to go through year by year again, but...
Notables not mentioned: Cam Fowler, Noah Hanifin, Adam Larsson, Victor Hedman, Seth Jones, Risto, Kulikov
It didn't seem to hurt any of them.... perhaps Larsson and Kulikov may have benefited from more time to explore their offensive potential, but it's arguable.
That's generally how you do it with most sports. Improvements in strength and power in the gym first, and then try to transfer those improvements into the sport movements.Drai had a noticeable difference in skating after his rookie year. Spent most of the summer putting power into his legs with off ice workouts. He didn't even bother with skating drills until late in the summer as well.
Draisaitl’s work in summer pays off in November and December
Ugh.... my Safari just crashed, like literally, as I was typing the last words of a post that went through every draft in the last 10 years. In 7 of those drafts at least one, and a couple times 2 or 3 guys stuck around in the NHL. No time to go through year by year again, but...
Notables not mentioned: Cam Fowler, Noah Hanifin, Adam Larsson, Victor Hedman, Seth Jones, Risto, Kulikov
It didn't seem to hurt any of them.... perhaps Larsson and Kulikov may have benefited from more time to explore their offensive potential, but it's arguable.
Most of them weren't very good in their first season though.
Fowler put up points but was -25. Larsson got sent back to the minors. Risto actually played AHL his first year.
Hedman and Doughty and Jones were the only D-men that stepped in and were actually good their first season and Bouchard isn't the same class of prospect as those players.
Most of them weren't very good in their first season though.
Fowler put up points but was -25. Larsson got sent back to the minors. Risto actually played AHL his first year.
Hedman and Doughty and Jones were the only D-men that stepped in and were actually good their first season and Bouchard isn't the same class of prospect as those players.
Larsson didn't get sent to the minors. He was actually pretty great (for a rookie D) until Subban laid him out. The next season he went to the minors. I watched many of his games as a rookie, great poise and confidence. All went away after that hit, he probably needed a shrink after that, not a demotion...Most of them weren't very good in their first season though.
Fowler put up points but was -25. Larsson got sent back to the minors. Risto actually played AHL his first year.
Hedman and Doughty and Jones were the only D-men that stepped in and were actually good their first season and Bouchard isn't the same class of prospect as those players.
^There is no way he's in that class yet. Those guys were all taken in the top 4. It would've been top 2 if Jones hadn't inexplicably fallen.
His stats in Junior are easily as good as any of those players in their draft years. Remains to be seen obviously if he can continue to develop well and reach his ceiling at the NHL level but I'm going by how well they performed in their draft years before they were drafted... and Bouchard is easily in that same class and above imo.
There is more to hockey than point totals. Guys like Hedman, Doughty, and Jones had far superior skating to Bouchard among other things.
I think you have your head in the sand if you think Bouchard is a better prospect than any of those other players were.
Most of them weren't very good in their first season though.
Fowler put up points but was -25. Larsson got sent back to the minors. Risto actually played AHL his first year.
Hedman and Doughty and Jones were the only D-men that stepped in and were actually good their first season and Bouchard isn't the same class of prospect as those players.
This is pretty much par for the course with any rookie defenseman. It likely does not matter when his first year is there will be struggles. If he is ready to try then he should play. If there is a better option go with that.
Yeah every rookie defenceman is going to have blips, but there are way more success stories when it comes to 20 year old seasons than 18 year old ones.
I'm of the mind that he shouldn't even get considered for 9 games unless he dramatically outplays everyone in camp.
Yeah every rookie defenceman is going to have blips, but there are way more success stories when it comes to 20 year old seasons than 18 year old ones.
I'm of the mind that he shouldn't even get considered for 9 games unless he dramatically outplays everyone in camp.
I send him to Europe to start playing against men. A 4th yr in jr wont help him, if anything it will allow him to cheat too much