Setec Astronomy
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Per LeBrun, there's a vibe that teams in the top ten (in addition to Montreal) are going to reach for centers, to the point that Hayton could be drafted in the top ten.
Good. Let the d-men fall.Per LeBrun, there's a vibe that teams in the top ten (in addition to Montreal) are going to reach for centers, to the point that Hayton could be drafted in the top ten.
Who would be your target picks at 17?
If Wahlstrom falls to 10, I hope Ray again uses his Jedi mind trick on Chiarelli. Severson and 17 for 10 overall. Worry about finding another RHD later.
not SOLELY a sentimental pick, but i'm sure they were more inclined to pick him, with Mikey pumping his tires + the friend connectionBastian wasn't picked strictly for the feels, he was ranked right around his draft selection by many people. I believe in listening to a podcast recently that's escaping me, might have been the most recent Devils All-Access one that had Dan McKinnon, they said they had Bastian ranked in the 20s on their board so they felt they were getting a 1st round talent in the 2nd round.
I'm sure a lot of it potentially stemmed from scouting Mississauga but nonetheless, certainly not a sentimental pick.
hey, he was/is best buddies w mikey
I've been trying to find McKenzie's list. Could you post a link? Thanks!Hayton rankings among major bureaus/pundits:
ISS 12
McKeens 13
Future Considerations 11
TSN (McKenzie/Button) 12/6
The Hockey News 8
Kournianos 14
Pronman 23
While Corey Pronman would agree with the assessment, most would not. But I do agree with you that there will be a great deal of variability in this draft.
Depends on who's still on the board.
If Smith falls it's hard to pass on him.
Denisenko, Bokk, Kaut , Kravtsov, Wilde, Kupari I'd be happy with, not in that order.
I'll post my pick when we get closer to Draft night.
It's a good list, but I'd still put K'Andre Miller over most, if not all, of it. The kid's upside is probably only trailing Dahlin in this draft class, which is stocked with defensemen. You just can't get players with that kind of upside at #17 too often.
I would agree that Wilde, Kravtsov and Kupari also have just tremendous upside.
Bokk and Kaut are "safer" picks, but I see them more as second-liners at the NHL level.
Denisenko is terrific in terms of skill, I agree with you, but with MoJo, Bratt, Boqvist in the system, do the Devils really need another skilled, perimeter LW whose biggest knock is a propensity to play soft?
Oh, one more thing if it's not too much to ask. It would be great if you could point out definitive breaks in quality you see, in other words "tiers".Will do. I'll post my top 40 or 50 list this week.
I haven't seen reports of Denisenko playing soft. Kravtsov even said that Denisenko plays more of a physical game than him .
Oh, one more thing if it's not too much to ask. It would be great if you could point out definitive breaks in quality you see, in other words "tiers".
Well, there tends to be steep drop-offs in different places in each draft, and I was wondering where you saw them at, but maybe just a silly requestI'm kind of uncomfortable with tiers. Would you be happy with: "Dahlin and Svechnikov, and then everybody else?"
I'm kind of uncomfortable with tiers. Would you be happy with: "Dahlin and Svechnikov, and then everybody else?"
Well, there tends to be steep drop-offs in different places in each draft, and I was wondering where you saw them at, but maybe just a silly request
Unrelated to the point of the question but do you really think zadina is that much below svechnikov? I think theyre pretty close tbh.
dahlin>svechnikov>zadina>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else.
This mock would be a tough pill to swallow. After recent heartbreaks like missing Marner and Hanafin by 1 slot in 15 (compounded by voluntarily passing on Werekski, Provorov for Zacha), and then watching in 16 as Sergachev and Jost go off right before 11 and get stuck with McLeod (compounded by voluntarily passing on the likes of McAvoy and Chychrun). This would be tough, to see Wilde and Miller go like this. Hopefully Steven is wrong, ha.
BTW, dunno if you read it, but Cordell makes a convincing statistical argument against McIsaac: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=93373Well, Devils fans sure didn't have any heartbreak in the 2017 draft, that should be some consolation.
But seriously, there has to be preparation for the possibility that Smith, Wilde and Miller all go in the 5 picks before the Devils step up to the podium. I am not alone in thinking the Islanders take Ty Smith if they keep both picks -- he has been mocked there by multiple sources. As far as Wilde goes, Hextall has recently been quoted left and right saying how valuable right-shooting defensemen are and how he would love to draft one, and Wilde is certain to be the top one available when the Flyers pick at 14. And though speculation on Miller's draft position is all over the place, I fear that his stellar combine and limitless upside will make him very attractive to both Florida at 15 and (especially) Colorado at 16.
The consolation here is that the 2018 draft also features many high-upside forwards. The two which I have mainly focused on for the Devils are Kravtsov and Kupari, both of whom offer tremendous top-line talent. The Devils could also trade down, recoup a second or third round pick, and still have a shot at several very good D (McIsaac, Alexeyev, Woo, Sandin) or F (Bokk, Thomas, Noel, Kaut, Foudy).