Prospect Info: 2018-2019 Senators prospect watch

[bdp]

Dorion said they took Tkachuk because of character, even though they felt there were players with more skill still available.

That's a yikes.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Dorion said they took Tkachuk because of character, even though they felt there were players with more skill still available.

That's a yikes.

How Mann has described Tkachuk more completely describes what he brings along with character.. Dorion says crap .. character... room is broken, room is fixed .. don't hang off one thing like that.. Tkachuk was chose for the package he brings . Character is one positive trait.. not The trait

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Dorion said they took Tkachuk because of character, even though they felt there were players with more skill still available.

That's a yikes.

Where have I heard that before?

They took him because that's who Melnyk wanted. It's the same as every other move the team makes.

 

[Viletho]

Dorion said they took Tkachuk because of character, even though they felt there were players with more skill still available.

That's a yikes.

For what it's worth, he followed by saying they wanted the whole package. And Tkachuk is that in there eyes.

Which is the same thing people are arguing.

Zadina ( more offensive skill ) vs Brady Tkachuk ( whole package ).

Also more skill doesn't mean they are 20-30 pts better in their eyes. It all depend on what you prefer when it come to build a team.

 

[Sens in Process]

I have never subscribed to the idea Zadina has more functional offensive skill than Brady. Sure, Zadina may navigate through practice cones with the best of them and dominate at the junior level, but he will have a hard time translating those skills at the NHL. He got lit up in the rookie tournament with his head down, cutting across the middle, which was his patent move in the CHL. Detroit fans in their reviews have already mentioned Zadina doesn't use his teammates well. Zadina was also outplayed by Velano.

It is okay. We picked the right guy.

 

[LastWordArmy]

A Rudolf Balcers Scouting Report is included here.

Josh Norris is also in the article.

They are #2 and #4 respectively.

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[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I remember watching Norris in the WJC thinking how much he sucks and was surprised to learn he was a first rounder.

 

[BondraTime]

So we just added 2 guys outside our own top 5. Great job PD!

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Think of it as karlsson for balcers tierney 1st 2nd demelo Norris AND Macleod

 

[aragorn]

Dorion said they took Tkachuk because of character, even though they felt there were players with more skill still available.

That's a yikes.

The Senators took Tkachuk because he was the BEST player available period & he proved that at the rookie tournament against his peers again that he was head & shoulders better than almost everyone else at the tournament. He may not get as many goals or assists as others but he is a better all around hockey player who will make the team better & the players he plays with better. He's got the total package, he's got good size, good offensively, good defensively, hard to play against, agitator, plays a tough in your face game, great in front of the net & screening goalies, he will do things that will help others to score, good in the corners & along the boards, he hits ... hard, he's great in the room & he's got great character. He checks all the boxes & is the kind of player who can beat a team numerous ways & play any kind of game they throw at him. Some players disappear when the going gets tough, Tkachuk won't, he'll thrive in that environment IMO.

 

[Deku]

So we just added 2 guys outside our own top 5. Great job PD!

Honestly looking at our top 10 from the voting this summer... Balcers definitely wouldn't be top 10 and I don't think Norris would be either

 

[aragorn]

I don't think the Sens are done dealing, I assume that whoever else they try & trade next they might add a player or two from this deal & add it to another deal to get a better return. But then again it's EM/PD making the deals so there's that. Just when you though this franchise had hit rock bottom this owner/GM find a way to make things worse. All of a sudden some of my EK trade proposals don't look so bad.

 

[NyQuil]

Hey!

Remember Perron? We gave him up too.

Because we need prospects and youth going forward.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Hey!

Remember Perron? We gave him up too.

Because we need prospects and youth going forward.

I bet we insisted on including Rodewald, Perron or Paul. We have too many AHL forwards as is. Perron scored 10 goals in 112 AHL games and never seemed like a priority prospect for the team. Not saying he’s hopeless but I think the team was happy to be rid of his contract.

 

[BondraTime]

Hey!

Remember Perron? We gave him up too.

Because we need prospects and youth going forward.

Perron wasn't happy here

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Think of it as karlsson for balcers tierney 1st 2nd demelo Norris AND Macleod

Our cup overfloweth.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Perron wasn't happy here

Interesting - unhappy with his usage? As I was saying above, never seemed to me like the organization treated him as a bonafide prospect.

 

[BondraTime]

Interesting - unhappy with his usage? As I was saying above, never seemed to me like the organization treated him as a bonafide prospect.

Not sure, I just heard he wasn't happy this summer, I brought it up a month or so ago

 

[Samboni]

Hey!

Remember Perron? We gave him up too.

Because we need prospects and youth going forward.

Just ads more salt on the wound.

 

[LDN]

Where will Tkachuk play?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Where will Tkachuk play?

Looks like Ottawa or Belleville (to be available for a callup) I would think outside chance for London. Based on the rookie tourny game ... he would dominate the O.

 

[Cosmix]

Where have I heard that before?

They took him because that's who Melnyk wanted. It's the same as every other move the team makes.

I don’t think Melnyk had much influence on the draft pick selection. Draft picks are done by Dorion and the scouting department. I have no major complaints with the selection of Tkachuk as I thought he and Zadina were probably virtually equal in value at pick number 4.

 

[Cosmix]

I don't think the Sens are done dealing, I assume that whoever else they try & trade next they might add a player or two from this deal & add it to another deal to get a better return. But then again it's EM/PD making the deals so there's that. Just when you though this franchise had hit rock bottom this owner/GM find a way to make things worse. All of a sudden some of my EK trade proposals don't look so bad.

The strategy changes depending on Melnyk’s need for cash. The implementation of the strategy is done by Dorion. DOOMED!

 

[Karl Prime]

So after this our prospect pool at the top end basically looks like...

LW: Tkachuk, Formenton, Balcers
C: Brown, Chlapik, Norris
RW: White, Batherson, Gagne
D: Wolanin, Jaros, Lajoie, JBD, Tychonick, Englund
G: Gustavsson, Hogberg, Hollett