Prospect Info: 2018-2019 Senators prospect watch part II

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  1. ChurchOfAlfie

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    Formenton a -2 with 1 shot in his return. Takes a charging penalty, an unsportsmanlike conduct diving penalty, a roughing penalty, and an abuse of official 10 minute misconduct. Looks like he was raring to go...

    Edit: Actually his second game back
     
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    Zack Smith would be proud.
     
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    Pretty sure it was his second game back. In his return he picked up an assist and an EN goal.
     
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    You're right. Looks like he played games 1 and 3 of a 3 in 3 days for London. Was a healthy scratch on game 2, Knights easing him back in.
     
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    How's Crookshank and JBD doing this week?
     
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    New Hampshire played Friday and Saturday ; Scored 1 goal each game, Crookshank no points
    North Dakota did not play this weekend.
     
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    I agree that it will be difficult if not impossible to trade Ryan and Smith without taking back salary or a bad contract.

    I also have a bad feeling about the Senators signing Duchene, Stone and Dzingel because those signings should already have been made. My suspicition is that the Senators are not making offers to those three players that are comparable to what other players of their skill sets have been getting. The cost cutting mentality of this Melnyk team coupled with the poor GM and coaching has destroyed this team.
     
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    Couple o'busts
     
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    Weird I made a post similar to this recently :

    B-Sens - Belleville 2018-2019 Season Part II

    Anyway, based on that pyramid, here's how I have it (including rookies recently graduated)

    Tier 1 (ELITE) : Chabot

    Tier 2 (great chance of Top-6 Fwd/Top-2 D/Good starter) : Batherson, Tkachuk, Brown, White, JBD

    Tier 3 (possible they end up very good too but upside just a tier below) : Norris, Formenton, Chlapik, Balcers, Crookshank, Wolanin, Gustavsson, Daccord

    Tier 4 (good chance at being contributors but not Top-6 Fwd/Top-2 D) : Jaros, Lajoie, Tychonick, Hogberg, Mandolese

    Tier 5 (decent chance at being role/depth players) : Paul, Klimchuk, Luchuk, Nurmi, Kelly, Harpur, Englund

    Tier 6 (not likely they ever make it but you never know) : Sturtz, Novak, Beaudin, Rodewald, Loheit, Tambellini, Lindberg, Ahl, Burgess, Bergman, Gendron, Hollett
     
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    Kelly 2g in a 3-1 victory
     
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    Unconvincing read. Way too much focus on points and not enough on play styles and strenghts and weaknesses.

    Norris had 17 points in 19 games so he's a "tier two" prospects? I have to mention that you gotta love the whole "this guy came up with this pyramid scheme when talking about Leafs prospects" name drop! The they have Formenton in the same tier and they don't even talk about his production. Is it maybe because his offensive output isn't that great...?

    No offense SoA, I know you mean well and I can be a critical ******* at times. I guess the time is meow: this is clickbait at its finest, when it isn't painfully obvious the author has nothing real to say outside of reading stat lines except when the stat line doesn't say much.
     
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    Tier 1 – Elite talent (Rasmus Dahlin, Auston Matthews, Connor McDavid-level talent)
    Tier 2 – Very, very good prospects with a real chance of being top-six forwards, top-two defenders or good starting goalies
    Tier 3 – Good players who fall just short of tier 2, perhaps due to lower ceilings, but who are distinctly better than tier’s below them
    Tier 4 – Distinct shot at making an NHL roster and being a contributor (top-nine forward, bottom-four defender, fringe starter or backup goaltenders
    Tier 5 – Players who likely don’t project to be anything more than a role player in the NHL as their ceiling – these players chances of making the NHL aren’t very high compared to their comrades (sometimes due to being relatively unknown at this point)

    They see Norris and Formenton as having real chances of being top 6 players, nothing to do with their production.

    They also say that Formenton was a point per game last season and over that mark this season before his injury, so they do talk about his production.
     
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    Norris has a serious knack for being in the middle of the other teams play. I hope he can contribute offensively against pro's. I also hope he comes to Canada I would assume Brady needing a roomie and friday night wingman should help a ton.
     
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    I'll just leave this here...
     
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    lol its crazy we think batherson is having a great year ( he is) but man some kids absolutely obliterated that league..
     
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    I know what they meant by "tier two", I read the article. My point was that the article says "this guy was almost PPG so he's tier two". It provides no insight that can't be gained by simply reading a stat line.

    Fair enough on the Formenton production, I must have missed it.
     
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    Different times and generations.

    Even more impressive if you look at essentially the stats from this generation of players (2010-present)

    Minimum 15 games.

    1. Kucherov
    171311241.41
    2. Ryan Strome
    371336491.32
    3. Drake Batherson
    381630461.21
    4. William Nylander
    381827451.18
    5. Mikko Rantenen
    52243660
    6. Kyle Palmieri
    51332558
    7. David Pastarnak
    25111728

    Elite Prospects - AHL Stats All-time season

    Some elite company to be with.
     
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    Ryan strome really stands out on that list still. And not in a good way
     
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    Kelly another 2g 1a in a 5-4 loss
     
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    I hope Batherson becomes a star. Ottawa could really use one right now.
     
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