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The Future
You guys think Logan Brown comes up after potential Stone/Duchene/Dzingel trades? Asking because I have him in a simulation league. Looks like he has been putting up good numbers in the A as well? Anyone watch him alot?
He's been on fire and taking a big step forward. He'll likely stay in the AHL. They're only a few points out from a playoff spot now and Brown and Batherson are the ones really carrying the team. Don't expect to see Brown in Ottawa this year.You guys think Logan Brown comes up after potential Stone/Duchene/Dzingel trades? Asking because I have him in a simulation league. Looks like he has been putting up good numbers in the A as well? Anyone watch him alot?
I don't think he'll be given a look seeing how bad the roster is right now. It would be tough to shelter him and there aren't to many offensive players that they could give him a look with. It's to bed because he showed a lot of promise playing on a line with Ryan and Stone in the pre season.You guys think Logan Brown comes up after potential Stone/Duchene/Dzingel trades? Asking because I have him in a simulation league. Looks like he has been putting up good numbers in the A as well? Anyone watch him alot?
Agreed.He's been on fire and taking a big step forward. He'll likely stay in the AHL. They're only a few points out from a playoff spot now and Brown and Batherson are the ones really carrying the team. Don't expect to see Brown in Ottawa this year.
Belleville Is making a big push for the playuoffsYou guys think Logan Brown comes up after potential Stone/Duchene/Dzingel trades? Asking because I have him in a simulation league. Looks like he has been putting up good numbers in the A as well? Anyone watch him alot?
He just got called up with Batherson...Belleville Is making a big push for the playuoffs
yep just heard.. srcratch what i saidHe just got called up with Batherson...
This better be temporary. The only good thing about this is that they're called up together and hopefully will play together.He just got called up with Batherson...
Yeah, I don't know, is what it is I guess.This better be temporary. The only good thing about this is that they're called up together and hopefully will play together.
But isn't that the situation with every deal with every team? Supposedly the team that ends up with the best player wins the deal but people are mad as hell over what PD paid to get Duchene. Ottawa did not get any elite players back in the EK deal, but did get a couple of players who can & have played in the NHL along with a couple of decent prospects & a 1st. EK is clearly the best player in any deal so they had no chance of winning any deal involving him.Rental or not, the real question is what has more value now and in the near future EK or the package we got.
It looks like we got the short end of the stick, and I fully expect more of the same in the upcoming trades. I wouldn't be surprised if PD runs out of time to deal the all 3.
What's even worse, he has no time to try to get rid of Smith, Ryan, Anderson, Boedcker, Boro...
The value PD is receiving is just not there, the deals where people think he did well are pretty much just fair deals. That's where we are at, to celebrate a win when he did not as bad as we have been afraid he would.
Agreed.
Ottawa doesn't gain anything by calling up their best players, where as Belleville needs guys to make a push. I was surprised when we called up Chlapik instead of Paul tbh.
I don't disagree, but just looking what we gave up for 1.5 seasons of Matt Duchene compared to what we received for 1 season of EK is disappointing.But isn't that the situation with every deal with every team? Supposedly the team that ends up with the best player wins the deal but people are mad as hell over what PD paid to get Duchene. Ottawa did not get any elite players back in the EK deal, but did get a couple of players who can & have played in the NHL along with a couple of decent prospects & a 1st. EK is clearly the best player in any deal so they had no chance of winning any deal involving him.
I'm not sure any GM could have done much better given if SJ was the only team willing to give the most assets or the best assets they could manage. Of course, we'll never know. It's impossible to celebrate any deal when a fan favourite is traded & that IMO lies more with the owner not willing to pay to keep their best players.
But again, doesn't that all have to do with the ownership, it's his team & he decides who he will pay to keep & who he will not? Isn't the GM being forced to do his bidding to keep his job here? I'm not a fan of PD but my view is that this whole mess lies at the feet of the owner.I don't disagree, but just looking what we gave up for 1.5 seasons of Matt Duchene compared to what we received for 1 season of EK is disappointing.
I have no proof, but I think most GM's would have negotiated both deals better. Also most other GM's would not find themselves in the position PD and the Senators are now.
Absolutely, but I don't feel sorry for him.But again, doesn't that all have to do with the ownership, it's his team & he decides who he will pay to keep & who he will not? Isn't the GM being forced to do his bidding to keep his job here? I'm not a fan of PD but my view is that this whole mess lies at the feet of the owner.
I don't think PD wanted to trade EK or now be listening to deals for the UFAs unless EM told him to because he refuses to pay what the players may be worth in today's market? The whole thing is interesting & sad at the same time.
First, you would have to be in a pretty good financial position to leave your job unless you have another one to go to paying as much. And let's not forget the fame that comes with the job & notoriety in the hockey world & from fans. Of course, there is also the hate when you trade away fan favourites.Absolutely, but I don't feel sorry for him.
Most people working in the middle management somewhere would have there budget approved at some point and work within it.
If they are not allowed to do that they would leave or revolt, yet we watch what's happening for the Sens on a almost daily basis.
And I don't think the GM job is comparable to middle management.
Most top managers would do what Anselmi did.
I doubt PD ever becomes a GM again, but will likely return to scouting with another NHL team.
Batherson/Brown/Balcers/Chlapik/Norris/Abramov/DavidssonSo how does Abromov and Davidsson now rank number wise with the prospects?
Batherson/Brown/Balcers/Chlapik/Norris/Abramov/Davidsson
Outside the top 5 among our F prospects
IMOBatherson/Brown/Balcers/Chlapik/Norris/Abramov/Davidsson
Outside the top 5 among our F prospects
Formenton?IMO
Batherson
Brown
Norris
Chlapik / Balcers / Abramov -- all close
Davidsson
Formenton?
I put him after Norris