Speculation: 2018-19 Roster Thread II
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The Midnight Burrito
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It’s illusory. They’re in 7th by points percentage, and just about every team has games in hand - they could easily be in 9th when the games even out. If Edmonton and Minnesota get 3 of the 4vpoints they have in hand, Anaheim is out of the playoff position.
That’s not shabby with the injuries, but it’s not nearly as impressive as their currents points total seems to indicate.
Dirk316
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Another useless post and yes Tropp would be great for the 4th line over Gibbons/Street
Dirk316
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The point is Carlyle under the circumstances has done an admirable job this year and I doubt Quenville would have done better
The Midnight Burrito
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Dirk316
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No we should keep playing Gibbons and Street
Speeeeeeed skillllllll! Fired Carlyle
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Gibson isn’t the coach. The only significant difference between the Ducks, Kings, and Blackhawks is the quality of the goaltending.
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KelVarnsen
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They are 6th in the conference after having played more games than anyone else. They are also 10th in goal differential in the conference. Their underlying numbers are bad and goaltending has kept them afloat. BM said as much when he stated goaltending covers up a lot of things. They are playing better than earlier in the year but to say they are in one of the top spots in the conference is wrong.
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Can you at least try to not be so biased in your arguments?
Anaheim is currently 6th in the West and the teams in 7th and 8th have games in hand. "One of the top spots" is a bit of a stretch IMO.
Carlyle and Murray have both admitted that one of the only reasons they're in the standings where they are is because of goaltending. Carlyle's influence has little if no impact to our goaltenders. Literally the best part of our team is where Carlyle has the least influence...
Our struggles are clearly not primarily injury related. Many of the healthy, non goalie players, have played like shit when in the lineup. Carlyle deserves a little credit, but clearly the thing that's primarily responsible for our teams current position (not one of the top spots though) in the west is goaltending.
Q is one of the best coaches in the league. If I'm not mistaken, no other active coach has as many cups as he does. That says a lot.
This post would have been relevant in October. But we have been playing much better overall team defense and are in the midst of our best offensive stretch of the season.
Also, having Ricky out of the lineup (although 1 player) definitely contributes to the overall success of the team.
Eh, even then, not really.
They've gotten better relative to the "this might be the worst hockey team in history at giving up shots" first month of the season, but it's still pretty bad.
Since Nov. 15, they're 8-2-2, but just +1 in goal differential and still outshot 409-342.
The good news is that I think this team can get better as the season goes on. They're getting healthier, they're getting more comfortable with whatever weirdness has come from the aborted attempt at a new system, and they've got infusions of talent that can help as the season goes on.
The bad news is that they're getting insanely lucky in winning or at least getting a point out of every single close game, and that won't happen forever. They need to play better just to stay where they are.
They've gotten better relative to the "this might be the worst hockey team in history at giving up shots" first month of the season, but it's still pretty bad.
Since Nov. 15, they're 8-2-2, but just +1 in goal differential and still outshot 409-342.
The good news is that I think this team can get better as the season goes on. They're getting healthier, they're getting more comfortable with whatever weirdness has come from the aborted attempt at a new system, and they've got infusions of talent that can help as the season goes on.
The bad news is that they're getting insanely lucky in winning or at least getting a point out of every single close game, and that won't happen forever. They need to play better just to stay where they are.
IMO, basing it off a smaller sample size is more inaccurate.
Like Kyle said, it's easy to say we're playing better when we were incredibly awful to start the year (despise the record). I personally think you're exaggerating Rakell's absence. He's been garbage this season.
This is all kind of moot though. My original post that Dirk responded to was about how I think Q coaching this team instead of RC is an improvement. With Q's resume, and our team's performance this year; I find that hard to argue.
If Steel or Lundestrom see some progress in sd, when Rakell is healthy I'd like to see
Ritchie - Getz - Kase
Henrique - Steel/lundestrom - Rakell
Sherwood - Kesler - Silf
I think that 2nd line could be good. 2 former centers could support Steel or Lundestrom and there would be a ton of skill on that line. I've also come to the conclusion that Cogliano is no longer a top 9 winger. Time to be a pk specialist on 4th imo. On the positive I think Sherwood is a very good grinder.
Ritchie - Getz - Kase
Henrique - Steel/lundestrom - Rakell
Sherwood - Kesler - Silf
I think that 2nd line could be good. 2 former centers could support Steel or Lundestrom and there would be a ton of skill on that line. I've also come to the conclusion that Cogliano is no longer a top 9 winger. Time to be a pk specialist on 4th imo. On the positive I think Sherwood is a very good grinder.
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Deuce22
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While I know this will never happen with RC as coach, would like to see Ducks move in this direction. Ditch the "shutdown line" and run with 3 attacking lines. Limit the new 4th line to 10 minutes (mostly D zone face-offs and PK).
Rakell-Getzlaf-Aberg
Ritchie-Henrique-Kase
Silf-Steel/Lundestrom-Sprong
Cogs-Kesler-Rowney/Sherwood
Montour-Lindholm
Manson-Larsson
Fowler-Dotchin
Rakell-Getzlaf-Aberg
Ritchie-Henrique-Kase
Silf-Steel/Lundestrom-Sprong
Cogs-Kesler-Rowney/Sherwood
Montour-Lindholm
Manson-Larsson
Fowler-Dotchin
Forwards with everyone healthy:
Aberg-Getz-Kase
Rakell-Rico-Perry
Cogs-Kesler-Silf
Ritchie-Rowney-Sprong/Sherwood
Aberg-Getz-Kase
Rakell-Rico-Perry
Cogs-Kesler-Silf
Ritchie-Rowney-Sprong/Sherwood
Yeah Kesler is a low end 3c. I could even see Steel on a skilled second line with Rakell and Rico and put Lundestrom on that 3rd line. I just like the idea of 3 good skilled guys on that second line to give us 2 very good lines and hopefully a decent 3rd line. Even though Steel wasnt great up here I bet he would do well with Rico and Rakell. Steel has amazing skill and vision. A stint the SD may help him adjust as well.
Dirk316
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Ritchie now down to the 4th line?
Ritchie now down to the 4th line?
You can put him in Cogs spot but I don’t think Randy will break that line up. The top line has been producing and all have great chemistry together. Perry and Rakell aren’t moving down for Ritchie. I’m a fan of Ritchie and he’s playing well but that’s what makes most sense to me
Dirk316
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Carlyle is not breaking up Kase and Ritchie especially for Aberg.
It's been tried and failed
The second line looks very likely with Aberg going to the 4th line or replacing Cogliano on the 3rd line
Ritchie now down to the 4th line?
Where would you put him and who would be on the 4th line instead? I think with some good minutes a line of Rowney/Ritchie/Sprong could be really good.
EDIT: I see your post above now. Aberg looked really good with Kase and Getz last night apparently - wouldn't it make sense to leave that trio together?
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