Prospect Info: 2018-19 Prospects Thread (CHL, NCAA, Junior A, Europe)

[LieutenantDangle]

Facepalm

 

[McMetal]

Now is the time for Vladislav Kamenev to prove he's ready...

Ryan Clark article has a mention in there about his frustration towards the end of his time with Nashville about being stuck in the minors. It would be a mistake to not put him in the NHL, even in a depth role to start.

 

[henchman21]

It is always a double edged sword... put a player in the NHL just to appease them and keep them over other players who might have earned it over him, pissing them off. Or sending him to the AHL to earn it and risk him pulling an Mironov. You'd hope Kamenev just comes into camp and earns it so it isn't an issue in general.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Kamenev has to earn his spot like anyone else. If he cant beat out the likes of Bork and Greer then maybe its time we explore shipping him somewhere.

 

[Pokecheque]

Yeah, I'll be honest, I'm not especially high on Kamenev, nor am I writing him off already either. Just a gut instinct, really. Even if he doesn't pan out the trade still looks amazing.

 

[Avs44]

I think Kamanev will have a spot on the opening night roster, unless he absolutely sucks it up in training camp and pre-season. I'm almost 100% confident he's going straight to the KHL if he gets sent down. Imagine Sakic's going to do everything he can to see if he can stick.

 

[Balthazar]

I'm almost 100% confident he's going straight to the KHL if he gets sent down.

This shit is getting problematic. If he's not good enough to make the team and wants to go back to Russia then we should let him go.

 

[CalderKing21]

I'm having the same feelings I had about Bigras concerning Timmins and his durability.

Let's not go there just yet. Bigras was such a disappointment.

 

[Avs_19]

If Kamenev plays well in camp and preseason then I hope he gets a NHL shot. It seems like they liked him enough and thought he was ready to contribute when they made the trade and immediately called him up. Well, either that or they promised him they would give him a legit shot. If Sakic truly felt this way about Kamenev in November then he should be given every opportunity to be on the opening night roster:




The only thing that has really changed since then is that he got hurt so if he's healthy and looking like himself then I think he should have a leg up on some of the other guys.

 

[milehigh11]

This was from an ESPN+ article on prospects in the Central. Its ESPN and we know they only watch highlights and read other reports on hockey to know anything of the sport.

Colorado Avalanche

A prospects: Cale Makar and Conor Timmins
B prospects: Martin Kaut, Vladislav Kamenev, Sampo Ranta, Shane Bowers and Ty Lewis


The Avalanche's blue line of the future looks pretty strong with the especially skilled Makar and high-end, two-way defender Timmins in the fold. They might not provide immediate help -- Makar is returning for a second collegiate season at UMass, and Timmins has dealt with concussion symptoms all summer -- but they both have top-four potential. Beyond them, the Avs' pipeline lacks depth, but it's getting better.

Having acquired both Bowers and Kamenev when they traded away Matt Duchene, the Avs' farm system got a nice boost in the center department. The question is if either will manage to break into a more established role down the middle or on the wing. The team also landed versatile winger Kaut in the first round of the 2018 draft. While they picked him earlier than I would have, he showcased some solid playmaking skills in a strong draft season, suggesting he could be a good middle-six winger down the line.

The Avs have a group of young players contributing at the NHL level already, which is great for their future. There's still a fair amount of building that needs to be done in their farm system to continue filtering players to the NHL level to support their younger core, but it's in far better shape than it was heading into last season.

2018-19 NHL-level impact prospect: Conor Timmins
2018-19 breakout prospect: Sampo Ranta

 

[The Merchant]

That was actually a pretty decent little write-up.

 

[Foppa2118]

This is much ado about nothing IMO. They're not going to put Kamenev in the NHL just to appease him. He's NHL ready in some capacity unless he has lost all motivation. He just wasn't totally in game shape and ready to jump back into the NHL after his injury last year.

That 4th line C job to start the year is basically Kam's to lose. He doesn't have a lot of strong competition there.

 

[Makar to MacK]

Am I the only one hoping that Nolan Foote falls to our 2nd pick in next years draft? I haven't wanted a player this bad since I wanted the Avs to take Carlo a couple years ago. It is admittedly just me being nostalgic. I haven't really seen any tape on Nolan so anybody got some opinions about him and or his game?

 

[Foppberg]

This is much ado about nothing IMO. They're not going to put Kamenev in the NHL just to appease him. He's NHL ready in some capacity unless he has lost all motivation. He just wasn't totally in game shape and ready to jump back into the NHL after his injury last year.

That 4th line C job to start the year is basically Kam's to lose. He doesn't have a lot of strong competition there.

Apparently the Wilson-Kamenev-Sven line in camp has looked quite good, solid chemistry.

I wouldn't hate that if it ends up sticking.

Landeskog-MacKinnon-Rantanen
Kerfoot-Jost-Compher
Calvert-Soderberg-Nieto
Wilson-Kamenev-Sven

 

[Foppa Frossa]

I don't think Jimothy Timothy has the talent to be on the second line at this point. I see him as a bottom sixer. As much as Kam may hate it, I'd rather him play a top six role for the Eagles. They can bring up Shyv, Kam and Kaut as a line next season if they're ready.

 

[Foppberg]

I don't think Jimothy Timothy has the talent to be on the second line at this point. I see him as a bottom sixer. As much as Kam may hate it, I'd rather him play a top six role for the Eagles. They can bring up Shyv, Kam and Kaut as a line next season if they're ready.

I don't either, maybe swap Sven and Compher. But Kamenev is done with the AHL, there's no reason for him to be back there unless he completely shits the bed.

 

[Perratrooper]

Still not sold on the second line, but the third and forth lines look nice.

 

[Balthazar]

Still not sold on the second line, but the third and forth lines look nice.

Not sure about that 4th line. Guys like Ghetto are pretty useless when they don't score and it's not something you want on a 4th line because that line won't score much.

I'd rather have Ghetto on the 2nd line and Compher on the 4th.

 

[UncleRisto]

Söderberg again with the worst possible scrubs on the team for the season, eh?

 

[LieutenantDangle]

Kerfoot-soda-jost

 

[Foppa2118]

Söderberg again with the worst possible scrubs on the team for the season, eh?

Soda clicks better with keep it simple, gritty two way wingers, than he does with high skilled players. Give Calvert a chance too. Maybe he wins you over.

 

[McMetal]

Soda clicks better with keep it simple, gritty two way wingers, than he does with high skilled players. Give Calvert a chance too. Maybe he wins you over.

Calvert will likely be a fan and team favorite, but it won't be for his offense.

 

[Foppa2118]

Calvert will likely be a fan and team favorite, but it won't be for his offense.

He won't be a high end offensive player, but a career season of 15 goals 30-35 points isn't out of the question IMO. If he can do something like that, he could form a very good 3rd line with Soda that can help contribute in the tighter, more physical games.

I don't think his production in Columbus with their style of play is a great indicator of what kind of points totals he'll put up in Colorado. Remember, he was actually a more productive player than Comeau when they were both in Columbus in 2013-14.

Comeau - 61 games - 5 goals - 11 assists - 16 points
Calvert - 56 games - 9 goals - 15 assists - 24 points

 

[Meeqs]

Soderberg had faced the 3rd toughest QoC last year I believe, so its not surprising his line mates were more defensive focused but its also not a surprise they held down his offensive numbers. I'd be guessing he sticks with Nieto and they try Sven, JT, maybe Kamanev on his wing if he makes the team to help with that and add a bit more skill. Maybe Calvert plays well and earns a spot there but I'd rather see him and Wilson on the 4th line with a kid at C. If he gets stuck with both Nieto and Calvert we are looking at crazy defensive duties again for him, which he actually handles well.

 

[Meeqs]

He won't be a high end offensive player, but a career season of 15 goals 30-35 points isn't out of the question IMO. If he can do something like that, he could form a very good 3rd line with Soda that can help contribute in the tighter, more physical games.

I don't think his production in Columbus with their style of play is a great indicator of what kind of points totals he'll put up in Colorado. Remember, he was actually a more productive player than Comeau when they were both in Columbus in 2013-14.

Comeau - 61 games - 5 goals - 11 assists - 16 points
Calvert - 56 games - 9 goals - 15 assists - 24 points

Imo we shouldn't compare the 2 other than filling the lost PK spot. The growth should come from the kids getting increased rolls.