Speculation: 2017 Offseason Roster Discussion 3 - Langkow for a 1st Edition

[Mosby]

Please no more reclamation projects or dumpster diving. Chayka has done a good job of securing actual talent.

 

[XX]

Please no more reclamation projects or dumpster diving. Chayka has done a good job of securing actual talent.

I think we're all still in the Maloney mindset. Chayka thinks bigger than that. It'll be a clear upgrade or no move at all, no point gumming up the system unless the dollars and assets spent are worth it.

I still think Demers ends up here.

 

[_Del_]

Murray's fine as depth if cheap and/or on a two-way. Last I looked we had like five dmen under contract for the AHL squad, and that was counting Wood who apparently may be with the big club. I wouldn't mind adding him at all for Tucson and allow him an outside chance to earn a call up.
If that's our NHL defenseman, then yes, I'd pass, but as depth and AHL help, I'd be pretty happy.

 

[AZviaNJ]

CGY sporting Hamilton, Hamonic, and Stone on RD. Does this make Rasmus Andersson available? Maybe for a forward prospect and/or some picks? Hometown boy Nick Merkley?

Ryan Murphy? And give him #5? Purely from a selfish standpoint as I can keep wearing my red #5 jersey.

From a talent stand-point, there's a reason why Carolina shipped him out and Calgary bought him out.....so yeah, it's an easy pass.

Agree with XX, the day of reclamation projects left with IA and Tippett.

 

[Mosby]

McKenzie: Coyotes "lurking in the weeds" on Shattenkirk

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider-trading-duchene-trade-talk-heating-up~1158391


LeBrun also confirmed that the Panthers are "trying to trade" Demers

 

[RABBIT]

McKenzie: Coyotes "lurking in the weeds" on Shattenkirk

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider-trading-duchene-trade-talk-heating-up~1158391


LeBrun also confirmed that the Panthers are "trying to trade" Demers

Nice! Could you imagine if we were somehow able to lure Shattenkirk?

 

[moosemeister]

Nice! Could you imagine if we were somehow able to lure Shattenkirk?

Don't hold your breath. Hammer was brought in to play with OEL. Which puts Shattenkirk on the second pairing. Don't want to send that much money to have someone playing on the second pairing. He's staying east.

 

[XX]

NJ is going to blow Shattenkirk away. They can afford to overpay. He likes the east coast. I don't see how Chayka wins that scenario. "lurking in the weeds" is basically Chayka's MO, he'll do anything if the price is right.

Solid Snake Chayka

Don't hold your breath. Hammer was brought in to play with OEL. Which puts Shattenkirk on the second pairing. Don't want to send that much money to have someone playing on the second pairing. He's staying east.

Shattenkirk is ideal as a sheltered 2nd pairing, 1st PP guy. There are reasons it won't happen but roster fit isn't one of them.

 

[RABBIT]

Of course I know it's not going to happen. Hence the "Could you imagine"

 

[Matias Maccete]

I want to stay away from Shatty.

 

[XX]

Chayka with the zinger.

 

[SniperHF]

What's he worth? 3.5? 4? more? Here he can play a lot of minutes and rack up points so I don't think other teams will look at him quite as favorably as we will. He still does well in per minute metrics so it's not all garbage time scoring but most teams have at least a couple wingers who would be ahead of him. No sense bidding against yourself if you're the Coyotes.


I also wonder if a sticking point could be the Coyotes wanting another bonus type contract but Vrby wanting straight cash.

 

[Mosby]

Heh, exact opposite of this Maloney quote from Oct. 2015: "I'd rather pay for performance and not pay for anticipation."

 

[Grimes]

Heh, exact opposite of this Maloney quote from Oct. 2015: "I'd rather pay for performance and not pay for anticipation."

Wow. That's a stunning contrast. You can tell Chayka is much more comfortable in his position. Probably helps that he doesn't have an ownership that thinks Doan+Smitty = ticket sales, and a coach/dictator breathing down his neck at all times.

 

[Mosby]

Canucks looking at Burmi, as per Friedman

 

[cobra427]

What's he worth? 3.5? 4? more? Here he can play a lot of minutes and rack up points so I don't think other teams will look at him quite as favorably as we will. He still does well in per minute metrics so it's not all garbage time scoring but most teams have at least a couple wingers who would be ahead of him. No sense bidding against yourself if you're the Coyotes.


I also wonder if a sticking point could be the Coyotes wanting another bonus type contract but Vrby wanting straight cash.

I think you are right, they want a bonus contract based on production. Verby could be like Doan and fall to 6 goals this year. I don't think he will, but I understand the risk and Chayka's point.

 

[cobra427]

Heh, exact opposite of this Maloney quote from Oct. 2015: "I'd rather pay for performance and not pay for anticipation."

I believe DM was saying if you had 15 goals then 23 goals, he wasn't paying for the projection as if you are going to be a 30 goal scorer.

 

[XX]

Dadonov to Florida, Demers trade maybe in the works.

 

[lanky]

I believe DM was saying if you had 15 goals then 23 goals, he wasn't paying for the projection as if you are going to be a 30 goal scorer.

I agree. Both Maloney and Chayka would probably bargain from whichever perspective helps themselves out.

 

[_Del_]

Yeah, I'm sure the quote for the Dvorak and Domi contracts will sound much different.

 

[Puck possession wins]

Guys, here's a crazy stupid idea.

Jagr.

Think of it. The perfect leader for the team, still wants to keep playing and comes to a great market.

Domi - Stepan - Duclair
Perlini - Dvorak - Keller
Crouse - Strome - Jagr
Martinook - Cousins - Rieder

Trade Mcginn

 

[BigDoaner]

Guys, here's a crazy stupid idea.

Jagr.

Think of it. The perfect leader for the team, still wants to keep playing and comes to a great market.

Domi - Stepan - Duclair
Perlini - Dvorak - Keller
Crouse - Strome - Jagr
Martinook - Cousins - Rieder

Trade Mcginn

I like it!

I see a lot of people putting Keller in at RW. I could be wrong but I don't think he likes RW. He was playing LW in the world championship and is during this prospect game.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Guys, here's a crazy stupid idea.

Jagr.

Think of it. The perfect leader for the team, still wants to keep playing and comes to a great market.

Domi - Stepan - Duclair
Perlini - Dvorak - Keller
Crouse - Strome - Jagr
Martinook - Cousins - Rieder

Trade Mcginn

No thanks.

Jagr is no Ray Whitney right now. I'd rather not spend any of our very small bankroll on a 45-year-old whose mullet is better than he is at this point.

 

[XX]

Jagr is slow as **** and would be keeping Fischer off the roster. Also, it'd be hilarious to do that after letting Doan go.

 

[Antonche]

Guys, here's a crazy stupid idea.

Jagr.

Think of it. The perfect leader for the team, still wants to keep playing and comes to a great market.

Domi - Stepan - Duclair
Perlini - Dvorak - Keller
Crouse - Strome - Jagr
Martinook - Cousins - Rieder

Trade Mcginn

Very bad idea. 3RW spot for Fischer. Jagr? Why parted ways with the our captain? Yagr is a name, but not an elite mercenary.