OT: 2017 American Football Thread

[Better Call Sal]

Really looks like the Giants are gonna pass on a QB, eh?

 

[Edmonton East]

It's funny to me that so many people are saying a large reason for the trade was JPP doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme....and then those same people say this points to the Giants taking Chubb....who also doesn't IDEALLY fit a 3-4 either.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Really looks like the Giants are gonna pass on a QB, eh?

Barkley is their guy, as I've been saying for months.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I can't wait for the backtracking once the Giants don't take Barkley at 2.

"I never said that!"

 

[Devils Dominion]

I can't wait for the backtracking once the Giants don't take Barkley at 2.

"I never said that!"

OK Mr. PZ and Lars > Ivan and Draisytl

 

[NJDevs26]

Really looks like the Giants are gonna pass on a QB, eh?

Good for us then the Jets will get their QB2 choice at worst, maybe QB1 if the Browns pull a Browns.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

OK Mr. PZ and Lars > Ivan and Draisytl

I was wrong. I can admit that when it happens.

The problem is you cannot, as has been proven many times.

 

[NJDevs26]

It's funny to me that so many people are saying a large reason for the trade was JPP doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme....and then those same people say this points to the Giants taking Chubb....who also doesn't IDEALLY fit a 3-4 either.

lol ‘so many’ people? I’m not a Giants fan, I’m not following what their new d-coordinator wants to do or where Chubb plays.

And they could take Barkley, his talent merits being picked anywhere in the draft and again this is an afar perspective but what exactly is the issue with Orleans Darkwa? His production seemed fine to me considering the Giants had zero offensive line or skill player talent at WR in the last 3/4 of the season.

Then again I’m still puzzled why the Jets keep trying to replace or marginalize Bilal Powell.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

lol ‘so many’ people? I’m not a Giants fan, I’m not following what their new d-coordinator wants to do or where Chubb plays.

And they could take Barkley, his talent merits being picked anywhere in the draft and again this is an afar perspective but what exactly is the issue with Orleans Darkwa? His production seemed fine to me considering the Giants had zero offensive line or skill player talent at WR in the last 3/4 of the season.

Then again I’m still puzzled why the Jets keep trying to replace or marginalize Bilal Powell.

I am pretty sure Darkwa is a free agent

 

[Devils Dominion]

I was wrong. I can admit that when it happens.

The problem is you cannot, as has been proven many times.

I admit it in the infrequent times I'm wrong, you have a lot of practice though.

 

[devilsblood]

It's funny to me that so many people are saying a large reason for the trade was JPP doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme....and then those same people say this points to the Giants taking Chubb....who also doesn't IDEALLY fit a 3-4 either.

I'd say the reason is more his play did not justify his pay.

And oft injured.

 

[Devils Dominion]

There is not a clear-cut #1 QB which makes this draft very interesting

Barkley is by far the best player.
If I'm the Giants I run up to the podium and draft him 10 seconds into being on the clock.

 

[Edmonton East]

lol ‘so many’ people? I’m not a Giants fan, I’m not following what their new d-coordinator wants to do or where Chubb plays.

And they could take Barkley, his talent merits being picked anywhere in the draft and again this is an afar perspective but what exactly is the issue with Orleans Darkwa? His production seemed fine to me considering the Giants had zero offensive line or skill player talent at WR in the last 3/4 of the season.

Then again I’m still puzzled why the Jets keep trying to replace or marginalize Bilal Powell.

I didn't even read the thread....by "people" I literally just meant "people", not posters here.

The majority of write-ups on the trade make the 3-4 comment and then suggest Chubb. I don't get it.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Why would anyone offer Brock Osweiler a contract?

 

[Better Call Sal]

Jets suddenly emerge as a strong suitor for Suh.

Sure, we just got rid of 2 malcontents on the d-line, let's bring in the biggest one.

In all seriousness, he's still a good player.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Josh Allen's stock is rising.

Jets should take him

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Why would anyone offer Brock Osweiler a contract?

hes going to be the backup

I don't like him either but it doesnt matter much

 

[tr83]

Jets suddenly emerge as a strong suitor for Suh.

Sure, we just got rid of 2 malcontents on the d-line, let's bring in the biggest one.

In all seriousness, he's still a good player.

This makes no sense. He was a cancer in college. He was a cancer in Detroit. He was a cancer in Miami.

I guess Jets management can "fix" him :

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Suh will go to the team that pays him the most money. The true definition of mercenary.

 

[Davegarri]

Suh will go to the team that pays him the most money. The true definition of mercenary.

Yeah I don't want him on the Jets.


And also a big fat no to Josh Allen. He's the next Jay Cutler

 

[NJDevs26]

Not a fan of Suh either but Maccagnan's proven on more than one occasion he's willing to completely overlook off-field and locker-room issues, which didn't exactly help the 2016 Jets.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Yeah I don't want him on the Jets.


And also a big fat no to Josh Allen. He's the next Jay Cutler

Based on what?

 

[Davegarri]

Based on what?

Big arm, poor accuracy. I don't trust a guy who could not complete more than 60% of his passes in college. Could he put it together in the nfl, maybe, but not a chance I'm willing to take with the 3rd overall

 

[Devils Dominion]

Big arm, poor accuracy. I don't trust a guy who could not complete more than 60% of his passes in college. Could he put it together in the nfl, maybe, but not a chance I'm willing to take with the 3rd overall

Totally different attitude and mental makeup though, plus better wheels

 

[Davegarri]

Totally different attitude and mental makeup though, plus better wheels

Definitely better attitude. I'll be honest, I haven't watched a lot of his games, but his stats are not convincing to me, especially against tougher competition.

There could be reasons like poor receivers, bad weather, bad play calling, etc. But I just question if he's worth the hype