Speculation: 2017-18 Roster Discussion - Part 6
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Todd1a
Kucherov or prospect
I think it’s well know with others teams karlsson will sign a extension in Tampa ? The question is would he with the sharks or others ? Because the assets you give up teams want to know probably what a extension might look like with him ?
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trade palat
trade Johnson
trade killorn
buyout Callahan
get rid of Coburn
let Girardi walk
This looks like the Lindros trade. The only problem is Lindros was 19 so he was going to be cheap for a few years and you'd have him for his best years. Karlsson is almost 28, is going to want to be paid huge and his best years may be behind him. I'm leaning towards not getting him.
I think they trade one of TyJo/Palat. Killorn gone. Sustr, Girardi and Coburn gone. Carle/Condra money gone.
I guess it's possible to extend Karlsson and Kuch at the same time. Point won't get that much on his first extension. Vasi will get a nice raise. Stralman will be up in the air - if he resigns it will be for cheaper.
We'll have a lot of holes to fill with youngsters and plugs.
We can easily afford Karlsson if we bought out Cally, traded Killer/Johnny, and let Coburn go.
Don't need to get rid of Palat or Girardi. Although I'm not overly sure there's a place on this team for Palat anymore. The kids are growing up and they're really, really good.
Don't need to get rid of Palat or Girardi. Although I'm not overly sure there's a place on this team for Palat anymore. The kids are growing up and they're really, really good.
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Got a feeling we won't need to worry about Stralz. The opportunity to play with two Swedes, both of which are very good friends of yours? Hah, he ain't passing that up...
Can anyone do a breakdown of what dollars and cap would look like going into 19-20 with the following:
Stamkos - 8.5m
Hedman - 7.8m
One of TyJo/Palat - 5m
Point - ???
Kuch - ???
Karlsson - ???
Vasi - ???
Etc....
Stamkos - 8.5m
Hedman - 7.8m
One of TyJo/Palat - 5m
Point - ???
Kuch - ???
Karlsson - ???
Vasi - ???
Etc....
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Yost just tweeted that Karlsson prefers to leave tomorrow and Yost thinks he will but it could take up to the deadline. Isn’t this another way of saying watch our trade deadline show?
Todd1a
Kucherov or prospect
With freaking yzerman anything is possible but for sure after next year he would have to move out some contracts for karlsson and kucherov extensions plus Brayden point getting a raise. Probably Johnson, killorn and palat get moved at least two of those three and a Callahan buyout his last year! Stevie would find a way to make the room.
Todd1a
Kucherov or prospect
His style of play and he is not a big body he will age better then hedman will
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Well if he doesn’t come here I hope he does go out west. If we don’t get him do we push for McDonagh?
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Getting him still leaves a gaping hole in our top 4. If Sergachev is gone, everybody's favorite Coburn fills it. If Sergachev is here, he fills it.
I'd prefer the Hjalmarsson and Green route to be honest. Probably in the minority and it's cool if it happens, but we have too many defenseman on the team that give me heart attacks already.
I'd prefer the Hjalmarsson and Green route to be honest. Probably in the minority and it's cool if it happens, but we have too many defenseman on the team that give me heart attacks already.
I love Serge as much as the rest, but Karlsson extended in his prime on this team is a wet dream. Completely unheard of.
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We have Hajek and Masin. Also top 4 LHD come pretty cheap compared to the rarity of top 4 RHD, let a lone the best RHD in the league.
Todd1a
Kucherov or prospect
Heading into 19-20 we currently have 43mil tied up to 8 players, with 31 available at a 75mil cap. That's Stamkos, Hedman, Palat, Johnson, Killorn, Vasilevskiy, Sergachev and Callahan. We would need 13-15 players to fill the roster. Say Kucherov gets 10, Point 4.5, Namestnikov 4.5, Gourde 3, the rest of the forwards should be ELC guys at less than 900k. So almost 25mil to get us to 12 forwards. With a 75 cap we'd have 6mil to get 4 defenseman, just to get to 6, I can see 3 ELC guys or just off ELC in Hajek, Cernak, Foote if around or Masin. Really cheap backup and we probably have 3mil left. If Karlsson wants 10 then a couple of forwards need to go. Callahan buyout saves us 3mil so would need to lose two of Killorn, Namestnikov, Johnson and Palat. Could be done but we'd have a bunch of young guys on the team.
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Point will be bridged around $4M, similar to Palat/Johnson with some cap inflation.
Kucherov.. tough to say, hoping for $8.5M but could understandably get much more.
Karlsson, let's call it $9M, but could be more if he was serious about being paid like the best defenseman in the NHL
Vasilevskiy will still be at $3.5M. His extension coincides with Callahan expiring.
Gourde - UFA, let's assume he walks
Stralman - at 33 years old, let's say he falls off a bit and we pay him $4M
I'll throw Sergachev in there just for the hypothetical.
XXXX - Stamkos ($8.5M) - Kucherov ($8.5M)
Palat ($5.3M) - Point ($4M) - Johnson ($5M)
Killorn ($4.45M) - XXXX - Callahan ($5.8M)
XXXX - XXXX - XXXX
Hedman ($7.7875M) - Karlsson ($9M)
Sergachev - ($0.894M) - Stralman ($4M)
XXXX - XXXX
Vasilevskiy ($3.5M)
XXXX
Carle ($1.833M)
So, a grand total of $66.7M (under the current cap, $8.3M in space) with 8 spots needed to be filled. That could be $2-4M less in space depending on how conservative I am with my guesses. There would be more space due to cap increases, but hard to predict by how much the cap will grow in 2 years. Callahan will only have 1 year left and should be easy to move. Then we could always move one of Palat/Johnson.
There's also an expansion draft to consider.
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