Salary Cap: 2017-18 Roster Building Thread Pt. 5 | Contract/FA charts in Post #1

[shureshot66]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Estimated 2017-18 ceiling​

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$75.5-$76M​

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Projected dollars committed |

59,420,000​

Projected July 1 cap space |

~16,580,000​

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

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30​

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9,500,000​

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9,500,000​

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9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

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29​

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8,700,000​

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8,700,000​

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8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

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29​

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6,800,000​

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6,800,000​

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6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

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29​

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4,250,000​

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UFA​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

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28​

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4,000,000​

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4,000,000​

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UFA​

Jake Guentzel|

LW​

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22​

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734,167​

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734,167​

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RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

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24​

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640,000​

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RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

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24​

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625,000​

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RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

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24​

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625,000​

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RFA​

Carter Rowney|

RW​

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27​

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612,500​

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UFA​

Defense.................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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.2019-20​

Kris Letang|

D​

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29​

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7,250,000​

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7,250,000​

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7,250,000​

Olli Maatta|

D​

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22​

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4,083,333​

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4,083,333​

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4,083,333​

Ian Cole|

D​

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27​

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2,100,000​

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UFA​

Goalie............,.......​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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.2019-20​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

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32​

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5,750,000​

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5,750,000​

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UFA​

Matt Murray|

G​

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22​

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3,750,000​

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3,750,000​

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3,750,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Zach Aston-Reese|

LW​

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22​

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925,000​

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925,000​

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RFA​

Thomas Di Pauli|

C​

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22​

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742,500​

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RFA​

Teddy Blueger|

C​

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22​

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705,000​

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RFA​

Daniel Sprong|

RW​

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19​

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692,500​

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692,500​

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RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

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22​

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692,500​

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RFA​

Defense...............​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Jeff Taylor|

D​

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22​

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742,500​

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742,500​

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RFA​

Ethan Prow|

D​

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24​

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730,000​

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RFA​

Lukas Bengtsson|

D​

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22​

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705,000​

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RFA​

Goalie..................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Sean Maguire|

G​

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23​

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705,000​

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RFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

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21​

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630,833​

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RFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2016-17​

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News and notes​

Mark Streit|

D​

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39​

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5,250,000​

|Served his purpose as a deadline rental

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

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37​

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3,850,000​

|Used to have something mean written here

Trevor Daley|

D​

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33​

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3,300,000​

|Declining, but immortalized as the anti-Scuderi

Ron Hainsey|

D​

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35​

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2,833,333​

|History with Rutherford could earn an extra look

Nick Bonino|

C​

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28​

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1,900,000​

|No way to tell which Bonino you'd be paying for

Matt Cullen|

C​

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40​

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1,000,000​

|Thanks for your service, Dad -- Enjoy retirement

Chad Ruhwedel|

D​

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26​

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575,000​

|Better than expected as an extended fill-in

David Warsofsky|

D​

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26​

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575,000​

|Great AHL production -- Not an NHL defender

Cameron Gaunce|

D​

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26​

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575,000​

|Depth defender who showed a few flashes

Kevin Porter|

C​

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30​

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575,000​

|Likely to move on after not sniffing a call-up

Garrett Wilson|

LW​

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25​

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575,000​

|Group VI UFA was solid in WBS before injury

Tom Sestito|

LW​

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29​

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575,000​

|Token minor-league goon

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player..........................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2016-17​

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News and notes​

Justin Schultz|

D​

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26​

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1,400,000​

|Hard to imagine anyone raising his stock more

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

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22​

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863,333​

|*Sigh* At least his next contract will still be cheap

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

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25​

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800,000​

|In line for a reasonably priced mid-range deal

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

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22​

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700,833​

|Will they protect him in the expansion draft?

Conor Sheary|

LW​

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24​

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667,500​

|Aggressive agent could make for tough negotiation

Josh Archibald|

RW​

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24​

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659,167​

|Decent speed will keep him in the organization

Frank Corrado|

D​

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23​

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600,000​

|Worthwhile project to keep around and develop

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

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22​

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585,000​

|Needs to take bigger step from AHL supporting cast

Tim Erixon|

D​

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25​

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575,000​

|Telling that he wasn't close to a call-up this season

Stuart Percy|

D​

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23​

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575,000​

|Unfortunately just another Leafs' first-round bust

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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Current Team​

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Contract​

Filip Gustavsson|

G​

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18​

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LuleÃ¥ HF (SHL)​

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3 years, 775,833 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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Current Team (League)​

Niclas Almari|

D​

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18​

|HPK (Liiga)

Anthony Angello|

F​

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20​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

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21​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Kasper Bjorkqvist|

F​

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19​

|Providence (HEA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

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21​

|Maine (HEA)

Connor Hall|

D​

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18​

|Kitchener (OHL)

Ryan Jones|

D​

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20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

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21​

|Brown (ECAC)

Joe Masonius|

D​

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19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

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19​

|Penn State (B1G)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

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26​

|Amur Khabarovsk (KHL)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

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21​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

Dominik Uher|

C​

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23​

|HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

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[Peat]

"Chris Kunitz LW 37 3,850,000 Used to have something mean written here"

My issue with Vermette is this - he's old, he's slow, and is nothing more than a 4C at this point. He costs $1.75mil and is signed for just this season. Means he will cost assets to obtain from Anaheim who realistically speaking has little incentive to move him. I would rather try to get Cullen back at a 1mil, move Rowney to 4C for less than a mil or use Sundqvist for less than a mil. All three have better wheels and cost us nothing. Rowney and Sundy are young, energetic kids to boot who we need to develop.

If the wheels have fallen off, my interest diminishes.

My guess though would be if we did want him, you'd tell Vegas there's a pick in a draft and trade, and you'd get him that way. Am I thrilled about the idea of a pick for one year of a veteran? No, but neither am I thrilled with one of Sid taking the big defensive face-offs, or Rowney and Sundy taking them. So I'm not completely disinterested either.

Now between them I may give a slight edge to Haula in abilities but I don't think we'd see a massive different. Size is comparable. The kick for me is this, Haula is a year older and is currently an unsigned RFA. I do indeed believe he will get more than $2mil which is what Jarnkrok is signed at for the next 5 years. There's additional value in that contract IMHO. If Haula said he's sign a 5yr/2mil per, then yeah I'd throw a 2nd at him before a 1st for Jarnkrok but that's not what we are facing here. If Haula wants $3mil for 5yrs, is that better or worse than Jarnkrok for $2mil? The uncertainty of Haula's future contract has me more hesitant. I love the idea of having the 3C of the team locked up at $2mil for 5 years. That's a very tradeable contract if he falls in the depth charts.

Like Anaheim with Vermette, Minnesota has little incentive to give him up. I highly doubt he's the target of LV where as Jarnkrok is to be honest (this without knowing who they will protect). With that, I believe Jarnkrok is also the more obtainable player.

Fair enough, I see where you're coming from. Minnesota fans says he'll be looking for 2m, but that's not certainty.

I do think I can see why Minnesota might give him up though. Next year they've got Koivu, Staal and Eriksson Ek at centre with Granlund and Haula both RFA. Kunin's signed with Iowa, they might be looking to bring him through quickly as well. Re-signing Granlund and Niederreiter will eat up a lot of their available cap too. I'd want to check their forum before I said that was definitely the case but I can see why they're willing to move on a centre who wants a pay rise.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

So I was just playing around with some faceoff stats -

If we trade for Bozak and Vermette, I cannot see it costing that much. If you take their career numbers and then assume that Bozak would take over Bonino's duties in the dot and Vermette would take Cullen's, we would go from 47% in the dot which ranked us 28th in the NHL this season, we would jump to 52% which would be good enough for 6th in the NHL.

I wouldn't ignore how badly we need to upgrade out team in the dot. With the game we play, improving in the dot makes us even harder to deal with.

I really like the idea of bringing in Vermette, especially if Vegas selects him and are willing to flip him. He would be a great flip flop 3/4C. I think him with a combo of some of our younger players can make a serviceable bottom 6 pivot rotation.

Bozak, I doubt the Leafs would be willing to play ball because that organization is looking to trend upward not laterally. I am not saying they will be all in buyers come deadline, but I highly doubt they are sellers in anyway. And I can certainly bet they will be buyers come free agency, Toronto as a team I think will be one of the biggest FA movers here in just a few weeks.

In a vacuum, I agree, a centerline of Crosby, Malkin, Bozak, and Vermette is amazing. Probably without a doubt be center line up in the league without any challenge. But I highly doubt we can get Bozak. And I would gladly take him. I would love to see if him and Kessel could rebuild their former chemistry then we have legit top 9 three rolling waves of offense.

But I just don't see it happening in reality. Vermette post expansion, sure, and I hope that happens also. Bozak... I have doubts.

 

[Peat]

If you believe Babcock when he says Nylander won't be a centre this coming season, then you don't put too many hopes on Bozak as a trade target.

 

[Riptide]

If you believe Babcock when he says Nylander won't be a centre this coming season, then you don't put too many hopes on Bozak as a trade target.

Yeah I never expected TOR would consider moving him. Even they thought Nylander would be a C this year, it still makes a lot of sense for Toronto who wants to get back to the playoffs to keep a player like Bozak vs hoping that Nylander can be an effective C this year.

 

[mpp9]

JR doubling down on wanting to protect Sid more but wanting that player to fit in with rolling 4 lines.

Kane's the only guy that comes to mind who's available. Unless he's talking some no name 4th liner better than Sestito.

 

[AgentM]

JR doubling down on wanting to protect Sid more but wanting that player to fit in with rolling 4 lines.

Kane's the only guy that comes to mind who's available. Unless he's talking some no name 4th liner better than Sestito.

Is this coming from the press conference they're having? I'm at work and can't stream it

 

[mpp9]

Is this coming from the press conference they're having? I'm at work and can't stream it

Yeah his own words at presser.

 

[Malkinstheman]

JR doubling down on wanting to protect Sid more but wanting that player to fit in with rolling 4 lines.

Kane's the only guy that comes to mind who's available. Unless he's talking some no name 4th liner better than Sestito.

Maybe Lando could be that guy too?

 

[Speaking Moistly]

JR doubling down on wanting to protect Sid more but wanting that player to fit in with rolling 4 lines.

Kane's the only guy that comes to mind who's available. Unless he's talking some no name 4th liner better than Sestito.

A defenseman could be a way to add some protection. They need more D depth, a physical D would be a nice acquisition and I wouldn't want to screw with the forwards. Probably expensive to get a food one who would fit the team though.

I really don't want Kane or to pay whatever stupid price Sakic will come up with for landeskog. Maybe Oshie can be the sneaky-ish dirty answer there, idk.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

JR doubling down on wanting to protect Sid more but wanting that player to fit in with rolling 4 lines.

Kane's the only guy that comes to mind who's available. Unless he's talking some no name 4th liner better than Sestito.

I absolutely hate that. I want Sid to be protected as much as anyone, but they won back to back cups rejecting using those kind of players. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and failing. But it is also doing the same thing over and over, winning, then rejecting it.

 

[SEALBound]

JR doubling down on wanting to protect Sid more but wanting that player to fit in with rolling 4 lines.

Kane's the only guy that comes to mind who's available. Unless he's talking some no name 4th liner better than Sestito.

Kane, Landeskog, Komorov maybe?, Nick Foligno maybe?...it's so damn tough finding established players that can come in and do that.

The other think you could do if get some youngers guys like Rychel, Brenden Lemieux, Duclair, etc and tell them what you want and expect from them to stay in the lineup.

You can also look for a top 4 dman that does that. Phenuf being such a guy. Who knows with the ED coming up who may be a target as well. I mean, I guy like Nino N. plays with an edge and he could be a target. Not sure if that's the kind of guy JR is looking at but it's a thought.

I mean, we just won our 2nd cup with speed and skill. I hate for us to send out guys like Rust, Hagelin, and Sheary only to get back Kunitz types. The guys that fit both molds are very tough to find and will come at a high cost.

Maatta+ out for Landeskog, sign MDZ and one of Kulikov/Smith/Stone? Not sure what Buffalo would want for Kane...

I just don't want us to lose Sprong. I feel like he'd be a key piece...but I just don't want him to go. Wonder if Hagelin+Sheary does anything for Buffalo? Hagelin's speed with Eichel could be interesting. Actually, a Hagelin-Eichel-Sheary line would be a damn good line.

 

[Coastal Kev]

I absolutely hate that. I want Sid to be protected as much as anyone, but they won back to back cups rejecting using those kind of players. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and failing. But it is also doing the same thing over and over, winning, then rejecting it.

You have every right to hate and I know you enjoy winning, but you aren't Sid or his head.


Priority #1 is protecting your captain. Whether you can prevent any and all attacks isn't the point, but you need a deterrent to prevent as much as you can.

 

[cheesedanish87]

JR doubling down on wanting to protect Sid more but wanting that player to fit in with rolling 4 lines.

Kane's the only guy that comes to mind who's available. Unless he's talking some no name 4th liner better than Sestito.

I can't see Kane at all, JR cares to much about character to bring in a player like him.

A 4th liner who can take a regular shift is the direction i think he will go, Ryan White is a free agent, maybe him.

He could also trade for a player like Ryan Reaves, i'm sure you can get a player like that for a mid to late round pick.

 

[Peat]

Can't help but wonder if Rutherford asks Botterill for his opinion on Kane after he's had a couple of weeks there and spoken to all the staff about whether he fits into dressing rooms or not. He ticks all the boxes if he could.

Otherwise... it will be interesting to see who he looks at. Not sure he wants them on Sid's line though, just in the team and able to play hockey.

 

[Ogrezilla]

So I guess JR has told all of the UFAs to check out free agency? That's Kunitz, Bones, Daley, and Hainsey, right?

 

[Jaded-Fan]

You have every right to hate and I know you enjoy winning, but you aren't Sid or his head.


Priority #1 is protecting your captain. Whether you can prevent any and all attacks isn't the point, but you need a deterrent to prevent as much as you can.

The concussion lawsuit against the NHL goes to trial soon, let that be the protection needed. I am shocked that it has not spurred more changes already.

The Pens are built to play a certain way, adding a couple of meatheads who do not play Pens' hockey ain't going to do much as we have seen in the past when the Pens tried this. We have had them on the team in the past.

Has having guys like that in the lineup made anyone hold up on Sid or others?

I can not remember a single instance.

 

[JTG]

So I was just playing around with some faceoff stats -

If we trade for Bozak and Vermette, I cannot see it costing that much. If you take their career numbers and then assume that Bozak would take over Bonino's duties in the dot and Vermette would take Cullen's, we would go from 47% in the dot which ranked us 28th in the NHL this season, we would jump to 52% which would be good enough for 6th in the NHL.

I wouldn't ignore how badly we need to upgrade out team in the dot. With the game we play, improving in the dot makes us even harder to deal with.

 

[SEALBound]

So I guess JR has told all of the UFAs to check out free agency? That's Kunitz, Bones, Daley, and Hainsey, right?

Interesting. I'm betting JR and Co have plans. No idea what it is...but I bet they have plans.

My guess is "we believe you will all be too expensive for what you bring but if you're willing to sign dirt cheap, we'll take you back. Just know you're not getting market value here."

Kunitz and Hainsey - $1mil or under
Bonino - $3mil or under
Daley - $2mil or under

 

[Peat]

So I guess JR has told all of the UFAs to check out free agency? That's Kunitz, Bones, Daley, and Hainsey, right?

Streit?

Ruhwedel's an UFA come to think of it.

edit: I can't believe I forgot Cullen...

 

[TimmyD]

In terms of adding toughness I think that Justin Williams could actually be a guy that JR looks at adding. He could play with Geno and I am pretty sure he would stick up for him if someone took a run or laid a dirty hit on him. He is also a guy that JR has some prior experience with. The thing about signing or trading for a guy like Reaves which I saw someone mention above is that they won't be playing with Sid or Geno so they won't really deter anything... I think his main target is Kane to be honest though. I highly doubt we could afford it but if we could end with this lineup that would be two guys to possibly deter stuff

Kane Crosby Guentzel
Williams Malkin Kessel
Sheary 3C Rust
Wilson Cullen (if he would come back) Kuhnhackl

 

[SEALBound]

The concussion lawsuit against the NHL goes to trial soon, let that be the protection needed. I am shocked that it has not spurred more changes already.

The Pens are built to play a certain way, adding a couple of meatheads who do not play Pens' hockey ain't going to do much as we have seen in the past when the Pens tried this. We have had them on the team in the past.

Has having guys like that in the lineup made anyone hold up on Sid or others?

I can not remember a single instance.

It's obviously not doing to deter a Hedman, Stickel, or Niskanen shot. What I believe it will help eliminate is the Dubinsky, Staal, etc shots. Someone wants to give Sid 5 cross checks in the back, someone is gonna go over and rough them up regularly.

How many times has Sid taken shots only to skate away and no one does anything? Getting someone tough enough to go in and throw a punch is what's needed...and that can't always be Malkin.

I hate that it has to be that way as it gives guys like Matt Cooke, Steve Downie, and Tom Wilson jobs. Not the players I want to see. I wanna see more Guentzel and Shearys, not Cookes and Downies. But apparently the NHL disagrees.

 

[888 98 twins]

Wonder if Ruhwedel is included in that group. Would definitely like to have him back as a 7.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Other quotes:

 

[billybudd]

JR doubling down on wanting to protect Sid more but wanting that player to fit in with rolling 4 lines.

Kane's the only guy that comes to mind who's available. Unless he's talking some no name 4th liner better than Sestito.

On the trade boards, Winnipeg fans seem open to the idea of moving Lowry for the 31st. Not sure what to think about that, but I love the player and he plays real nasty.