Speculation: 2015 Coaching Search: Who's the next head coach? Not Babcock - Pt. 2 - MOD post #917

[joshjull]

I wonder if this isn't actually a problem of communication. I don't see why pegula would get outbid. I kind of suspect the sabres soured on Babcock toying with them. Not that they wouldn't have paid what Toronto paid.

Its going to be about personnel control. Toronto has no GM and can give him the type of control Murray never will. Nor should IMO.

 

[Zip15]

he turns getting out-coached into an artform

Yet he somehow knew how to win a playoff series in the Eastern Conference. Maybe Babs could get some pointers?

Jason Brough @JasonPHT · 2m 2 minutes ago
Sweeney not ready to commit to Claude Julien. Needs to have a "philosophical" discussion first.

Julien is a better coach than Babcock, full stop. This would be a great hire.

 

[Jim Carr's Rug]

I have an irrational fear of Ken Hitchcock.
It started around 1999...

Honestly, I really would have trouble coming around to him if he were the guy.

 

[CatsforReinhart]

Also Paxon how does this hurt???

If Buffalo knew Babcock was never coming here then

5 million a season and McLellan is the sabres coach.

That pisses me off too, we wasted our time chasing someone that was never coming here and lost out on the second best option too.

 

[joshjull]

Yet he somehow knew how to win a playoff series in the Eastern Conference. Maybe Babs could get some pointers?



Julien is a better coach than Babcock, full stop. This would be a great hire.

Would LOVE Julien as coach.

 

[Paxon]

Players and coaches know they can use Buffalo to get more money. If you think about it we can still be used in the future. Players and coaches need to want to come here.

With players that always happens because teams have to spend what they have to spend under the cap. I just don't see it hurting us. If you get 'used' you wind up without the player/coach the same as you would if you didn't try. No harm, no foul. Once we become better, people will be more interested in joining up.

 

[truthbluth]

he turns getting out-coached into an artform

How's that exactly?

 

[RiotAct]

I mean, Toronto? Seriously? Is there another NHL team with a bleaker outlook (okay besides maybe the Coyotes)?

 

[Zman5778]

Would LOVE Julien as coach.

The guy who ran Seguin out of town????

For some reason, I cannot picture Eichel and Julien coexisting together.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Would LOVE Julien as coach.

Seconded, forgot all about Julien. The B's haven't let him go yet, though, have they?

 

[FearTheBeard]

Hitchcock or Julien would be unreal if they get canned

 

[CatsforReinhart]

With players that always happens because teams have to spend what they have to spend under the cap. I just don't see it hurting us. If you get 'used' you wind up without the player/coach the same as you would if you didn't try. No harm, no foul. Once we become better, people will be more interested in joining up.

So spending time chasing players that dont want to come here we lose out on players that do because buffalo is focused elsewhere. Of course it hurts.

 

[Chad Thundercock]

I'm enjoying Hamilton too much on radio now...

He rips whoever his 'source' is (he has no sources on any team, I'll bet on that) and that he's too naive. Hahaha. So much fail.

 

[radar493]

In the NHL you need elite to win. It's no different for coaching.

Don't agree at all. Coaching is important but also overrated.

 

[Zman5778]

Hitchcock or Julien would be unreal if they get canned

I'd certainly prefer Hitch to Julien.

 

[Afino]

The guy who ran Seguin out of town????

For some reason, I cannot picture Eichel and Julien coexisting together.

Ran him out of town? Seguin ran himself out by being a clown. That didn't suddenly stop in Dallas...

 

[Zip15]

The guy who ran Seguin out of town????

For some reason, I cannot picture Eichel and Julien coexisting together.

Funny, I didn't see him in that video with Chia and Benning.

 

[BCS]

In the NHL you need elite to win. It's no different for coaching.

Look at all the Cup-winning coaches who were fired at previous stops.

 

[TehDoak]

To be 100% honest, I wanted Babcock to take the job here because

A) He believed in process that the ownership/front office had started
B) Felt he had an opportunity to win multiple cups down the road
C) Knew ownership was committed to winning

If it REALLY was about money and being a defacto GM, then it was never going to be a fit.

If he was never really interested in Buffalo at all and simply leveraged the Sabres to get a better offer elsewhere, then let's hope Terry doesn't let it happen again.

 

[Jame]

Yet he somehow knew how to win a playoff series in the Eastern Conference. Maybe Babs could get some pointers?

Julien is a better coach than Babcock, full stop. This would be a great hire.

how many top 3, 5 10, draft picks was Babcock coaching in Detroit?

I see you use Dats/Zets as an argument AGAINST Babcock, it's hilarious, and i ignore it.

Babcock is the best coach in the sport. period.

i'd love to get Julien.

 

[Paxon]

Also Paxon how does this hurt???

If Buffalo knew Babcock was never coming here then

5 million a season and McLellan is the sabres coach.

That pisses me off too, we wasted our time chasing someone that was never coming here and lost out on the second best option too.

I don't think McLellan was coming here. He and Edmonton were nearly a done deal very quickly. We could have talked to him too while talking to Babcock if he wanted to. By your logic though you would say be wary to talk to McLellan because he'd just be using us to drive up the price with Edmonton. All I'm saying is if you're interested in a player or coach, make your pitch. If their interest isn't strong, so what, they are still hearing you out. If they don't accept, so be it.

 

[Afino]

Don't agree at all. Coaching is important but also overrated.

after a season where all we did was rip Nolan for coaching this team to win a few games, you're saying that?

 

[Selanne00008]

Yet he somehow knew how to win a playoff series in the Eastern Conference. Maybe Babs could get some pointers?



Julien is a better coach than Babcock, full stop. This would be a great hire.

Would LOVE Julien as coach.

I concur. I am kinda pissed right now, as most are. But it could be a blessing in the end. I'll wait until I see who we really hire.

 

[Zip15]

how many franchise draft picks was Babcock coaching in Detroit?

I see you use Dats/Zets as an argument AGAINST Babcock, it's hilarious, and i ignore it.

Babcock is the best coach in the sport. period.

i'd love to get Julien.

Please tell me those guys are the players they are because of Mike Babcock. Please. Just say it for us. Once.

 

[truthbluth]

how many top 3, 5 10, draft picks was Babcock coaching in Detroit?

I see you use Dats/Zets as an argument AGAINST Babcock, it's hilarious, and i ignore it.

Babcock is the best coach in the sport. period.

i'd love to get Julien.

What is the specific argument against Bylsma?