Speculation: 2015 Coaching Search: Who's the next head coach? Not Babcock - Pt. 2 - MOD post #917

[Afino]

Look at all the Cup-winning coaches who were fired at previous stops.

Coaches get fired everywhere, it's part of the business...

 

[Zman5778]

Don't agree at all. Coaching is important but also overrated.

Go look at a list of coaches to win the Stanley Cup.

In the modern era, the WORST coach to win a Cup is probably Bylsma followed by Tortorella.


Otherwise, it's a who's-who of coaching.

 

[RiotAct]

after a season where all we did was rip Nolan for coaching this team to win a few games, you're saying that?

I think he means in a normal, non-bizarro-world situation.

 

[BCS]

Coaches get fired everywhere, it's part of the business...

I guess teams fire "elite" coaches a lot, then.

 

[truthbluth]

Go look at a list of coaches to win the Stanley Cup.

In the modern era, the WORST coach to win a Cup is probably Bylsma followed by Tortorella.


Otherwise, it's a who's-who of coaching.

How is Bylsma a bad coach again? The Penguins were MUCH worse without him.

 

[Zip15]

how many top 3, 5 10, draft picks was Babcock coaching in Detroit?

I see you use Dats/Zets as an argument AGAINST Babcock, it's hilarious, and i ignore it.

Babcock is the best coach in the sport. period.

i'd love to get Julien.

He had three top-5 talents in Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Lidstrom for most of his career in Detroit.

 

[Jame]

Please tell me those guys are the players they are because of Mike Babcock. Please. Just say it for us. Once.

Mike Babcock was the biggest driver in their development outside themselves.

 

[Zman5778]

How is Bylsma a bad coach again? The Penguins were MUCH worse without him.

I'm not saying he's BAD.

But look at a list of Cup-winning coaches. Tell me Bylsma is better than.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Read Leafs offered $8 million.

 

[Zman5778]

Babcock is the best coach in the sport. period.

I think I'd rather have Q or AV.

 

[Djp]

I mean, Toronto? Seriously? Is there another NHL team with a bleaker outlook (okay besides maybe the Coyotes)?

Cant see the forest through the wads of bills falling in front of him....

 

[joshjull]

How is Bylsma a bad coach again? The Penguins were MUCH worse without him.

No they weren't. They came into the playoffs missing 3 of their top 4 dmen (Letang, Hoff and Maatta). Not their current coach's fault that was the case.

 

[FamilyGuy716]

How is Bylsma a bad coach again? The Penguins were MUCH worse without him.

I agree, I think he would be a great coach for us. Fleury did him in at Pittsburgh

 

[Jame]

I think I'd rather have Q or AV.

no interest in AV

I'd love Q, but apparently we have to write off coaching success if they coached star players.

 

[Dubi Doo]

What sucks about losing out on Babcock is he would've been coaching our future core pieces when they are young and fresh to the league. He easily could've implemented his system and philosophies to them, and they would've had it locked down by the time they hit their primes. Now we risk the chance of cycling through coaches, and those core pieces may have to learn new systems and philosphies possibly delaying success.

I got my hopes up. I can't lie. At least my girl gave me a good birthday present last night so I ain't stressin' too much!

 

[TehDoak]

I would have really liked to have gotten Babcock.

It'll be interesting to see what Toronto does now. I'd really like to blow them out on a regular basis for the lifetime of Babcock's contract....just to add a little more salt to the wound.

 

[Sabre the Win]

McKenzie just tweeted Leafs will make a formal announcement about the hiring.

 

[1point21Gigawatts]

I am of course gonna be really bitter if it IS Toronto and all signs point towards yes. This is a bitter pill to swallow because i went to bed last night thinking we had him. But what makes me really bitter is the idea (mere speculation) that babcock may have used us as leverage to get a big payout via Toronto. That just really stings.

 

[Bps21*]

Bylama had Crosby playing dump and chase. Which is as dumb as it gets. Eichel is the best carrying the puck in I've seen in years...if we get bylsma and I see his goddamned dump and chase that everyone knows is ******** ill take a couple years off until he's fired.

 

[Sabre Dance]

I agree, I think he would be a great coach for us. Fleury did him in at Pittsburgh

Did him in how though? He never missed the playoffs.

 

[radar493]

after a season where all we did was rip Nolan for coaching this team to win a few games, you're saying that?

I never ripped Nolan and,yes, I'm saying that. The most important factor for winning is the players. Again coaching is I.important but overrated. Example: Marv Levey? Elite? No. Good coach great players and four super bowls. My opinion is coaching is even a bigger deal in football than hockey (just my opinion) yet players still make or break a team. Few years back Shannahan was elite in many eyes.

 

[BCS]

McKenzie just tweeted Leafs will make a formal announcement about the hiring.

McKenzie hasn't tweeted anything in an hour.

 

[Paxon]

after a season where all we did was rip Nolan for coaching this team to win a few games, you're saying that?

Are you implying Nolan did a good job coaching? Because, well, no...

What people had issue with was him trying to squeeze wins out at the expense of development. Riding whichever goalie he determined was worthy, burying Hodgson on the 4th line, etc. Whether they were right or wrong, that was the argument. I don't see anyone arguing that Nolan actually got us a better record than we deserved because our record was as bad as can be.

 

[Afino]

I never ripped Nolan and,yes, I'm saying that. The most important factor for winning is the players. Again coaching is I.important but overrated. Example: Marv Levey? Elite? No. Good coach great players and four super bowls. My opinion is coaching is even a bigger deal in football than hockey (just my opinion) yet players still make or break a team. Few years back Shannahan was elite in many eyes.

Mike?

He was never elite.

 

[Zip15]

no interest in AV

I'd love Q, but apparently we have to write off coaching success if they coached star players.

I think even the most passive readers of these boards will recognize that strawman.