Prospect Info: 2015-2016 Prospect Stats and Discussion

[JordanGalhanth]

I guess the one thing separating Bear from those two is what appears to be an elite shot at the junior level. Kid has Jultz shooting ability.

Totally get the sarcasm and see the reference in watching Bear's goals, but at least his wrister has some semblance of zip on it (especially the first of his two goals).

 

[McMozesmadness]

Seattle wins. Seattle wins.

Next round will be televised. Woooo.

 

[Aceboogie]

Id be really interested to hear a Thunderbirds fan on Bears performance. 6 goals 15 points in 13 games is unreal, and Seattle seems to be rolling thru teams

hes leadin OHL and WHL in scoring (goals and points) by D this playoffs. Contender for WHL playoff MVP?

 

[Paralyzer]

Id be really interested to hear a Thunderbirds fan on Bears performance. 6 goals 15 points in 13 games is unreal, and Seattle seems to be rolling thru teams

hes leadin OHL and WHL in scoring (goals and points) by D this playoffs. Contender for WHL playoff MVP?

If true, that'd be 2 years in a row we had guys take the MVP Playoff trophy from the WHL (Draisaitl last year).

 

[Aceboogie]

If true, that'd be 2 years in a row we had guys take the MVP Playoff trophy from the WHL (Draisaitl last year).

Thatd be incredible. Barzal is the driver on that team but hes only 7th in playoff scoring (still great) but typically MVP goes to the forward on the winning team if hes high in playoff scoring leaders. Youd think if Seattle were to win it, itd go to either one. But Bear leading all D in scoring and pretty close to Barzal might give him the edge. Ofcourse this is only based on stats, havent watched to know better

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Thatd be incredible. Barzal is the driver on that team but hes only 7th in playoff scoring (still great) but typically MVP goes to the forward on the winning team if hes high in playoff scoring leaders. Youd think if Seattle were to win it, itd go to either one. But Bear leading all D in scoring and pretty close to Barzal might give him the edge. Ofcourse this is only based on stats, havent watched to know better

You could pretty easily give the MVP to any of Barzal, Bear, and Bow at the moment. Killer B's indeed!

Bow's 12-1 with a .936 SV%.

Bear's leading all CHL defencemen in real leagues (AKA not the Q, where everyone and their grandmother is PPG ) in scoring.

 

[superdeluxe]

Id be really interested to hear a Thunderbirds fan on Bears performance. 6 goals 15 points in 13 games is unreal, and Seattle seems to be rolling thru teams

hes leadin OHL and WHL in scoring (goals and points) by D this playoffs. Contender for WHL playoff MVP?

Bear is deadly on the PP, he sits up on top of the Blue line and has a great shot.

If Seattle wins the WHL, it will be Bow.

 

[Aceboogie]

Bear is deadly on the PP, he sits up on top of the Blue line and has a great shot.

If Seattle wins the WHL, it will be Bow.

This is great. Even if Bear only tops out as PP specialist, he still has grit to his game and sounds like a solid defender.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Totally get the sarcasm and see the reference in watching Bear's goals, but at least his wrister has some semblance of zip on it (especially the first of his two goals).

And he gets it off in a freaking hurry, too. Half the time the camera pans to him he's already taken the shot. That's confidence, my friends. Not waiting for two or three one thousands before releasing.

 

[Aerchon]

And he gets it off in a freaking hurry, too. Half the time the camera pans to him he's already taken the shot. That's confidence, my friends. Not waiting for two or three one thousands before releasing.

I couldn't tell where sarcasm was taking place.

Does he have a good slap shot? I could care less if he has a sublime wrister because it's very safe to say wristers don't transfer to the NHL level enough to matter much.

An nhl PP specialist needs both or if only one than an elite slapper.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I couldn't tell where sarcasm was taking place.

Does he have a good slap shot? I could care less if he has a sublime wrister because it's very safe to say wristers don't transfer to the NHL level enough to matter much.

An nhl PP specialist needs both or if only one than an elite slapper.

Well, here's an excerpt from a McCurdy writeup in January:

The final skill to look at on the offensive side of the puck is Bear’s shooting. During the game, he took a total of 6 shots, with 4 of them coming on the PP. He does shoot very hard with a heavy shot, but during this game his shot tended to go a little higher than most coaches would be comfortable with. Out of the 6 shots taken, 4 were slapshots and two wrist shots. All shots were taken with a quick release and one-timers off a pass. All shots were taken in the middle lane of the ice and from a good angle.

So he may favour the wrister a little bit - and it's completely fine to have a quick, accurate wristshot as a defenceman as long as you can get it through - but he does have a slapshot as well.

 

[Aerchon]

Well, here's an excerpt from a McCurdy writeup in January:

The final skill to look at on the offensive side of the puck is Bear’s shooting. During the game, he took a total of 6 shots, with 4 of them coming on the PP. He does shoot very hard with a heavy shot, but during this game his shot tended to go a little higher than most coaches would be comfortable with. Out of the 6 shots taken, 4 were slapshots and two wrist shots. All shots were taken with a quick release and one-timers off a pass. All shots were taken in the middle lane of the ice and from a good angle.

So he may favour the wrister a little bit - and it's completely fine to have a quick, accurate wristshot as a defenceman as long as you can get it through - but he does have a slapshot as well.

Thanks.

 

[Canovin]

Well, here's an excerpt from a McCurdy writeup in January:

The final skill to look at on the offensive side of the puck is Bear’s shooting. During the game, he took a total of 6 shots, with 4 of them coming on the PP. He does shoot very hard with a heavy shot, but during this game his shot tended to go a little higher than most coaches would be comfortable with. Out of the 6 shots taken, 4 were slapshots and two wrist shots. All shots were taken with a quick release and one-timers off a pass. All shots were taken in the middle lane of the ice and from a good angle.

So he may favour the wrister a little bit - and it's completely fine to have a quick, accurate wristshot as a defenceman as long as you can get it through - but he does have a slapshot as well.

Reminds me of Subban minus the elite skating. Bear shot is better at the same age tho

 

[Digger12]

And he gets it off in a freaking hurry, too. Half the time the camera pans to him he's already taken the shot. That's confidence, my friends. Not waiting for two or three one thousands before releasing.

That's what jumped out at me too, his shot isn't supremely heavy or anything but his release is super quick, I'll bet he surprises a lot of goalies with how fast the puck gets in on them.

It's no Justin Schultz 3-Steamboat special, that's for sure.

 

[JordanGalhanth]

It's no Justin Schultz 3-Steamboat special, that's for sure.

Or an Eberle short-side puck-duster...

 

[Caser]

Paygin scored a PP goal for Russia NT B-team today with a slapshot from a right-hand circle.

Looks like he has been practicing those:

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I do wonder how far off Paigin could be. Especially with how desperate this team is for a point presence on the PP.

We know he's staying staying in Russia next year, but if he comes over after that he'll be 22. Is it too much to hope for him only need a half year in the AHL to adjust to the NA rinks?


It'll be interesting to see if he can replicate his success from this season (same with Bear). This teams actually starting limb/crawl its way towards a decent looking defence

Nurse-Klefbom
Davidson-______
Paigin-Bear (Sekera-Fayne in the meantime, and Reinhart, Oesterle, Simpson, Laleggia, Musil, and Jones as other possible wildcards for these spots).

Just need a quality option to fill that last spot

 

[Avenger*]

I do wonder how far off Paigin could be. Especially with how desperate this team is for a point presence on the PP.

We know he's staying staying in Russia next year, but if he comes over after that he'll be 22. Is it too much to hope for him only need a half year in the AHL to adjust to the NA rinks?


It'll be interesting to see if he can replicate his success from this season (same with Bear). This teams actually starting limb/crawl its way towards a decent looking defence

Nurse-Klefbom
Davidson-______
Paigin-Bear (Sekera-Fayne in the meantime, and Reinhart, Oesterle, Simpson, Laleggia, Musil, and Jones as other possible wildcards for these spots).

Just need a quality option to fill that last spot

Why are we playing Klefbom on the right side? If Chairelli fails to bring in a single top 4 right hand d-man this off season he has failed as a GM.

 

[McMozesmadness]

Here's the broadcast schedule for the WHL final. Game one nationally broadcast on Sportsnet 360 the rest on Shaw.

Excellent chance to watch Bear and in general some great hockey.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Why are we playing Klefbom on the right side? If Chairelli fails to bring in a single top 4 right hand d-man this off season he has failed as a GM.

Well they've got several good LH defeceman coming up through the ranks, it wouldn't be that big a surprise to see one of them shifted to the right side. My line up there was more so thinking of spring 2018.

I just chose Klefbom because he's already line up on his offside at various points of his pro career (if I'm not mistaken). Also I love the idea of a Nurse-Klefbom as a two way/shutdown pairing.

 

[Aceboogie]

Paygin scored a PP goal for Russia NT B-team today with a slapshot from a right-hand circle.

Looks like he has been practicing those:

Impressive. Is the B team just a practice team before the World championships? or does Russia have 2 teams?

 

[Aceboogie]

Im not entirely sure well see Paigin back in KHL next year. I know hes signed 1 more year, but those contracts have out clauses. Not to mention Sochi might fold ( I think). Youd think Chiarelli is super eager to bring him to NA asap and not risk anything

Plus it speeds up devleopment a year. Same level of comp as KHL, but you are in AHL learning NA style

 

[RebuildTheRebuild]

Paigin has been traded back Ak Bars Kazan again.

I will be interested to see how he does. Certainly looks like we do have a very good prospect on our hands though. Lets hope he can keep it up.

 

[Aceboogie]

Paigin has been traded back Ak Bars Kazan again.

I will be interested to see how he does. Certainly looks like we do have a very good prospect on our hands though. Lets hope he can keep it up.

Damn. As a poster on main board said. Ak Bars coach is like Hitchcock on steriods with his emphasis on D zone play. Said Paigin would be fighting for minutes given coaches preference for defensive D and vets. So hell see his minutes go down drastically. Plus Ak Bars is a powerhouse team with a good D core

Although 2 things:
1) If he can succeed in Ak Bars then thatll speak volumes and we are looking at a steal and future #3.
2) Probably gives Chiarelli even more cause to bring him to NA to ensure he can have control over development

 

[Blue Bullet]

In my latest post at the bluebulletreport.com I delve into the expected draft value of a CHL forward selected in the top 90 overall. I have grouped the forwards based on both a statistical measurement called NHLP (my point prediction model for a CHL forwards best season in the NHL) and by draft selection. I than calculate the % of forwards that have played 100 NHL games and the average PPG of those forwards that do end up playing 100+ games.

These are the results:

To compare, these are the results for the expected value of all forwards in the top 90 (not just CHL).

To read the full post and how these results came about and how to utilize them best, click here.