Salary Cap: 2014-15 Roster-building Thread XI | All UFA and Trade proposals here | Cap SET: $69M

[BumFortyOne]

Kulemin - Malkin - Iginla would be a damn fine line
Kunitz - Crosby - Honqvist

Ya I can work with that.

and as a note, I hope the lines are less rigid with a new coach. If they cool off, shuffle guys around a bit.

Yep, I would be fine flipping Hornqvist and Iginla as well. Either way, I'd like to push Bennett down to the third line and bring in a legit top six winger by dumping Dupuis. We'll see if Rutherford agrees because I can't see any other option but playing Bennett in the top-six if Dupuis is still here.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Yep, I would be fine flipping Hornqvist and Iginla as well. Either way, I'd like to push Bennett down to the third line and bring in a legit top six winger by dumping Dupuis. We'll see if Rutherford agrees because I can't see any other option but playing Bennett in the top-six if Dupuis is still here.

ya I agree. We need to move one or both of Scuds and Dupuis if we want to push Bennett down to the 3rd line.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

If Dumoulin or Harrington outplay Samuelsson, Samuelsson should be the number 7 as soon as Maatta is back. If both Dumoulin AND Harrington outplay him, then Samuelsson should be the number 7 all year. If he's not our 6th best defender, don't force him into our top 6 D line-up.

Best case would be him outplaying them and holding the spot, treating him as the #7 all season will hurt his development. I guess the other 'best' would be just not having to bring him up.

What's the news on Harrington being NHL ready?

 

[Ogrezilla]

Best case would be him outplaying them and holding the spot, treating him as the #7 all season will hurt his development. I guess the other 'best' would be just not having to bring him up.

What's the news on Harrington being NHL ready?

You're right, it would be best if the guy who needs to clear waivers is the best of them. But I think its more likely he's the worst of the three than that he's the best of the three.

 

[penguins2946*]

Agreed, I'd actually see him under 3.5 mil. I know he didn't have much to work with the majority of the season but Sutter was very underwhelming until march.

I could see him taking a 1 year deal to increase his value (and I think he's a UFA after next year) so he can cash in next year. My ideal situation would be to sign him do a 4 year, $14 million deal ($3.5 million per) right now, but I wouldn't mind a 1 year deal worth less to raise his value and either sign him long term next year or go with Spaling as a 3rd line center.

 

[BumFortyOne]

Iggy isn't worth what he'll get. Guy's slow and not someone who can help carry his line independent of Sid/Geno. I'd spend that money on Hemsky or in a trade.

I'd be fine with Hemsky as well. The best thing with Iginla is that he'll be on a shorter contract. Because after this offseason the top nine is likely to be set for the next 3 seasons depending on the length of Spaling's contract. Which is nice, but I think it would be good to have some flexibility to retool in a few years.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

You're right, it would be best if the guy who needs to clear waivers is the best of them. But I think its more likely he's the worst of the three than that he's the best of the three.

Probably. So hopefully they can avoid bringing him up, I guess. He's probably going to end up being the #7 for better or worse... if they move Scuderi.

 

[BumFortyOne]

I could see him taking a 1 year deal to increase his value (and I think he's a UFA after next year) so he can cash in next year. My ideal situation would be to sign him do a 4 year, $14 million deal ($3.5 million per) right now, but I wouldn't mind a 1 year deal worth less to raise his value and either sign him long term next year or go with Spaling as a 3rd line center.

Definitely should look to lock in Sutter for at least 3 years, hopefully longer. That way he can always be traded later if a good deal comes along. I definitely don't want to see him walking after next season for nothing.

 

[pensfan71]

I'm all in for Vrbata and Kuli to be our signings

 

[penguins2946*]

Definitely should look to lock in Sutter for at least 3 years, hopefully longer. That way he can always be traded later if a good deal comes along. I definitely don't want to see him walking after next season for nothing.

Yeah I agree. That's what Shero was fired for with Niskanen. He didn't lock him up cheaply soon enough, then Niskanen exploded and priced himself out. 4 years at $3.5 million per is a fair deal. Even at his current level, $3.5 million with a rising cap won't be bad.

If I were JR, I would lock up both Spaling and Sutter long term right now. 4 years at $1.75 million per for Spaling.

I'm all in for Vrbata and Kuli to be our signings

I would **** everywhere if JR managed to do that

 

[Michael8771*]

I'm all in for Vrbata and Kuli to be our signings

Exactly! Then we need to add a bit of size and toughness to the bottom six. Maybe a defensemen.

 

[Dupree13]

I was intrigued at the idea of bringing Iggy back, but after reading what a lot of Boston fans had to say about him I really cooled down on the idea.

Despite his excellent statistical season he was apparently pretty underwhelming for long stretches and didn't show up for the playoffs. They were not too upset to see him move on.

Bylsma gets a lot of justified blame for mis-using him but as many felt from watching him in a Pens sweater, he is definitely into the twilight of his career. I'd pass.

 

[pensfan71]

I would **** everywhere if JR managed to do that

Is this in a good way?

 

[Michael8771*]

Yeah I agree. That's what Shero was fired for with Niskanen. He didn't lock him up cheaply soon enough, then Niskanen exploded and priced himself out. 4 years at $3.5 million per is a fair deal. Even at his current level, $3.5 million with a rising cap won't be bad.

If I were JR, I would lock up both Spaling and Sutter long term right now. 4 years at $1.75 million per for Spaling.

I wouldn't mind that myself. They get job security and we gain cost certainty for years to come.

 

[pensfan71]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.250m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Radim Vrbata ($3.250m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m)
Nick Spaling ($1.500m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.275m) / Beau Bennett ($0.900m)
Colin Fraser ($0.825m) / David Steckel ($0.750m) / Jack Skille ($0.750m)
Jayson Megna ($0.874m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Rob Scuderi ($3.375m) / Mark Fayne ($1.500m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) / Simon Despres ($1.200m)
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Jeff Zatkoff ($0.600m)
BURIED
Craig Adams ($0.600m)
LTIR
Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,799,125; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $2,200,875


Here's ONE of the rosters I'm working on

 

[penguins2946*]

I wouldn't mind that myself. They get job security and we gain cost certainty for years to come.

Yeah definitely. $5.25 million for those 2 in 3 years will be a steal.

Is this in a good way?

I meant j*** everywhere, not s*** everywhere. So yes, that's better

 

[pensfan71]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.250m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m)
Nick Spaling ($1.500m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.275m) / Beau Bennett ($0.900m)
Colin Fraser ($0.825m) / David Steckel ($0.750m) / Jack Skille ($0.750m)
Jayson Megna ($0.874m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Rob Scuderi ($3.375m) / Simon Despres ($1.200m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) / Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m)
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Jeff Zatkoff ($0.600m)
BURIED
Craig Adams ($0.600m)
LTIR
Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,880,792; BONUSES: $68,333
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $119,208

Here's #2

 

[Riptide]

I don't see how there is no flexibility. All 4 of those are capable of not looking out of place on the 3rd line. I get what you mean (no 3rd liners that can also not look out of place in the top-6). The only realistic thing we could do IMO is trade Sutter for a winger like Stewart, play Spaling at 3C (he's equally as good at center as he is on the wing) and playing Dupuis and Bennett on the 3rd line.

That's all I meant. No one who wouldn't look out of place if the coach moved them up if he wanted to mix things up. That's honestly my biggest fear of putting BB in to the top 6. That and when someone gets hurt, we're in the same situation.

Going that route, leaves you with just over 4m (assuming NK 3.3m, NS 2.2m, SD 1.2m) for 1 top 6 winger. Might make more sense to go that route. No clue if JR agree's or not.

 

[shureshot66]

Well, it *sounds* good, at least.

“It's about the playoffs,” Rutherford said. “The decisions we're making, the discussions we're having, they're about putting together the best hockey team we can have for the playoffs. Not everyone's always going to be on the same page, but we'll all agree on that.”

http://triblive.com/sports/dejankovacevic/dejancolumns/6332384-74/rutherford-table-jim

Guess we'll wait and see.

 

[Ogrezilla]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.250m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Radim Vrbata ($3.250m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m)
Nick Spaling ($1.500m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.275m) / Beau Bennett ($0.900m)
Colin Fraser ($0.825m) / David Steckel ($0.750m) / Jack Skille ($0.750m)
Jayson Megna ($0.874m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Rob Scuderi ($3.375m) / Mark Fayne ($1.500m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) / Simon Despres ($1.200m)
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Jeff Zatkoff ($0.600m)
BURIED
Craig Adams ($0.600m)
LTIR
Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,799,125; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $2,200,875

Here's ONE of the rosters I'm working on

why would we sign someone like Mark Fayne if we also keep Scuderi?

 

[Ogrezilla]

also, doesn't Steckel suck?

 

[pensfan71]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.250m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Radim Vrbata ($3.250m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m)
Nick Spaling ($1.500m) / Dave Bolland ($4.750m) / Beau Bennett ($0.900m)
Steve Bernier ($0.775m) / David Steckel ($0.750m) / Jack Skille ($0.750m)
Jayson Megna ($0.874m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Rob Scuderi ($3.375m) / Jeff Schultz ($1.200m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) / Simon Despres ($1.200m)
Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m) /
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Jeff Zatkoff ($0.600m)
BURIED
Craig Adams ($0.600m)
LTIR
Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,755,792; BONUSES: $68,333
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $244,208


And that's my last one

 

[pensfan71]

Oh good

why would we sign someone like Mark Fayne if we also keep Scuderi?

also, doesn't Steckel suck?

I don't mind Fayne as a player and maybe him and Scuds could become a shutdown pair for us.

Steckel is amazing at faceoffs and JR was going off about how we need more puck possession from our 4th line so he's the best FO man that came to mind

 

[Ogrezilla]

I don't like any line-ups with Scuderi. I like line-ups with Scuderi AND another d-signing even less. It makes no sense. We need to let these kids play. The only way it makes sense to sign a d-man is if we move Scuds out.

 

[Riptide]

You do know there's this thing called the salary cap, right? And maybe, just maybe, this team wants to do better than scrubs like Megna, Vitale, and/or Gibbons on the fourth line. He isn't going to earn anything playing in the wrong role on a third line. If the Penguins don't want to use him in a top 6 role [Bennett], they should trade him. Otherwise, he needs a long look.

lol. So. Much. Fail.