Injury Report: #2: Nolan Patrick Migraine Disorder (Sep. 26, '19); 1-year $874,125 qualifying offer (Oct. 16, '20)

[TheKingPin]

There will always be injuries, but when Patrick and Lindblom get back we will be absolutely loaded.

 

[Tripod]

Laughton will be too busy riding shotgun to Hayes on the 2nd line to worry about the 4th line.

Just wait.

 

[Striiker]

Laughton will be too busy riding shotgun to Hayes on the 2nd line to worry about the 4th line.

Just wait.

His 18.75 sh% is certainly sustainable and we should definitely keep him there during the inevitable regression.

Our coaches don't understand the concept of luck, after all.

 

[TCTC]

Laughton will be too busy riding shotgun to Hayes on the 2nd line to worry about the 4th line.

Just wait.

The Laughton-Hayes-Konecny line was fun to watch. They're so good at getting under the other team's skin.

 

[Tripod]

His 18.75 sh% is certainly sustainable and we should definitely keep him there during the inevitable regression.

Our coaches don't understand the concept of luck, after all.

Well it's better than having a winger there who doesn't produce due to bad luck, isn't it?

 

[Striiker]

Well it's better than having a winger there who doesn't produce due to bad luck, isn't it?

You always ice the best possible roster, based on who your best players are, not who has been lucky in the past. You can't predict good or bad luck, you just have to do what's in your power to give your team the best chance to win.

So, in this instance, I wouldn't keep Laughton in the top six if/when the games start back up just because he was lucky earlier this year.

 

[Magua]

“Chemistry.”

Laughton + Hayes.......................-3.7 relxGF%

Laughton + Hayes + Farabee..... -1.8 relxGF%

Laughton + Hayes + Konecny......+0.2 relxGF%

Farabee + Hayes + Konecny.........+1.6 relxGF%


I know which line visually had the most pure talent and flow. And if there's one thing I know about shooting % heaters — like, say, doubling your career shooting % despite underwhelming play driving stats — it's that they usually carry over after a 4 month pandemic.

 

[Tripod]

You always ice the best possible roster, based on who your best players are, not who has been lucky in the past. You can't predict good or bad luck, you just have to do what's in your power to give your team the best chance to win.

So, in this instance, I wouldn't keep Laughton in the top six if/when the games start back up just because he was lucky earlier this year.

Lol....I forgot my Emoji. My bad.

As you know, I want Laughton on the 3rd line at best....ideally in the 4th line.

 

[Striiker]

Lol....I forgot my Emoji. My bad.

As you know, I want Laughton on the 3rd line at best....ideally in the 4th line.

Ah yeah, same.

I'm the guys 2nd biggest fan (@Stizzle is #1), but 2nd line is just too much...

 

[Stizzle]

Ah yeah, same.

I'm the guys 2nd biggest fan (@Stizzle is #1), but 2nd line is just too much...

 

[Starat327]

“Chemistry.”

Laughton + Hayes.......................-3.7 relxGF%

Laughton + Hayes + Farabee..... -1.8 relxGF%

Laughton + Hayes + Konecny......+0.2 relxGF%

Farabee + Hayes + Konecny.........+1.6 relxGF%


I know which line visually had the most pure talent and flow. And if there's one thing I know about shooting % heaters — like, say, doubling your career shooting % despite underwhelming play driving stats — it's that they usually carry over after a 4 month pandemic.

Hey buddy. You're not forcing me off the waterfall, alright?!? I'm standing my grou*slip*

 

[TheKingPin]

“Chemistry.”

Laughton + Hayes.......................-3.7 relxGF%

Laughton + Hayes + Farabee..... -1.8 relxGF%

Laughton + Hayes + Konecny......+0.2 relxGF%

Farabee + Hayes + Konecny.........+1.6 relxGF%


I know which line visually had the most pure talent and flow. And if there's one thing I know about shooting % heaters — like, say, doubling your career shooting % despite underwhelming play driving stats — it's that they usually carry over after a 4 month pandemic.

I would think the round robin against the best and then the playoffs will bring the skilled and dangerous players to the top. I think the break will be best for the rookies. Mentally and physically.

 

[DancingPanther]

“Chemistry.”

Laughton + Hayes.......................-3.7 relxGF%

Laughton + Hayes + Farabee..... -1.8 relxGF%

Laughton + Hayes + Konecny......+0.2 relxGF%

Farabee + Hayes + Konecny.........+1.6 relxGF%


I know which line visually had the most pure talent and flow. And if there's one thing I know about shooting % heaters — like, say, doubling your career shooting % despite underwhelming play driving stats — it's that they usually carry over after a 4 month pandemic.

Yeah but boy did Laughton look great with Hayes

iTest

 

[deadhead]

I would think the round robin against the best and then the playoffs will bring the skilled and dangerous players to the top. I think the break will be best for the rookies. Mentally and physically.

The opposite, history shows that generally playoff hockey is more physical as refs swallow their whistles.
It won't be like a decade ago, but it'll be more physical than regular season play.
And with checking lines faster than a few years ago, finesse players will have smaller windows.

Fletcher didn't decide to add Grant and Thompson on a whim, I'm sure it was a joint decision with AV.
They are insurance against injury but also against young players struggling in the playoffs.

It's a small sample, but if you go back to the 2017-18 playoffs:
Lehtera CF 42.68, xGF 31.19
Read CF 47.31, xGF 35.27
Lindblom CF 38.98, xGF 37.21
Manning CF 48.77 xGF 38.11
Gudas CF 46.75 xGF 39.39
Patrick CF 44.44, xGF 43.20
Sanheim CF 48.00, xGF 43.78
TK CF 45.80, xGF 44.78

best performances:
Simmonds CF 50.0, xGF 55.85
Couts CF 51.75, xGF 54.41
Provorov CF 52.87, xGF 53.45
Laughton CF 55.00, xGF 47.82

Less talented players get exposed in the playoffs, but so do inexperienced players.
Gudas struggled in 2015-16 as well, and that may have been one factor in the trade for Niskanen.

AV may not be comfortable asking Farabee and Frost to play major roles, at least at first until they prove themselves.
So it wouldn't surprise me if AV went with Laughton over Farabee at 2LW. Or a bigger role for a Ghost -Braun pair until Sanheim - Myers show themselves ready.

The round robin will help by allowing young players to get their feet wet.

 

[Rebels57]

The opposite, history shows that generally playoff hockey is more physical as refs swallow their whistles.
It won't be like a decade ago, but it'll be more physical than regular season play.
And with checking lines faster than a few years ago, finesse players will have smaller windows.

Fletcher didn't decide to add Grant and Thompson on a whim, I'm sure it was a joint decision with AV.
They are insurance against injury but also against young players struggling in the playoffs.

It's a small sample, but if you go back to the 2017-18 playoffs:
Lehtera CF 42.68, xGF 31.19
Read CF 47.31, xGF 35.27
Lindblom CF 38.98, xGF 37.21
Manning CF 48.77 xGF 38.11
Gudas CF 46.75 xGF 39.39
Patrick CF 44.44, xGF 43.20
Sanheim CF 48.00, xGF 43.78
TK CF 45.80, xGF 44.78

best performances:
Simmonds CF 50.0, xGF 55.85
Couts CF 51.75, xGF 54.41
Provorov CF 52.87, xGF 53.45
Laughton CF 55.00, xGF 47.82

Less talented players get exposed in the playoffs, but so do inexperienced players.
Gudas struggled in 2015-16 as well, and that may have been one factor in the trade for Niskanen.

AV may not be comfortable asking Farabee and Frost to play major roles, at least at first until they prove themselves.
So it wouldn't surprise me if AV went with Laughton over Farabee at 2LW. Or a bigger role for a Ghost -Braun pair until Sanheim - Myers show themselves ready.

The round robin will help by allowing young players to get their feet wet.

This has been one of the biggest changes in hockey in the last decade. There were a few years where the finesse guys hadn't yet adjusted and it made for some pretty bad hockey to watch. Last couple of years it seems like they have adjusted and there is a nice balance where the top guys can still make plays despite the speedy checking lines.

 

[Striiker]

If we look at the last five Stanley Cup winners, it doesn't look like the refs are "swallowing their whistles" during their runs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hardly a difference at all and in some cases there's more calls made.


2018-2019 Blues

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	2.89	3.07	+0.18
Penalty kills per game	2.83	2.50	-0.33

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2017-2018 Capitals

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	2.98	3.13	+0.15
Penalty kills per game	3.28	3.13	-0.15

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2016-2017 Penguins

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	3.17	3.12	-0.05
Penalty kills per game	3.13	2.92	-0.21

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2015-2016 Penguins

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	3.21	3.21	0.00
Penalty kills per game	3.13	2.79	-0.34

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2014-2015 Blackhawks

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	3.18	2.91	-0.27
Penalty kills per game	2.57	2.69	+0.12

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[deadhead]

If we look at the last five Stanley Cup winners, it doesn't look like the refs are "swallowing their whistles" during their runs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hardly a difference at all and in some cases there's more calls made.


2018-2019 Blues

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	2.89	3.07	+0.18
Penalty kills per game	2.83	2.50	-0.33

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2017-2018 Capitals

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	2.98	3.13	+0.15
Penalty kills per game	3.28	3.13	-0.15

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2016-2017 Penguins

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	3.17	3.12	-0.05
Penalty kills per game	3.13	2.92	-0.21

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2015-2016 Penguins

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	3.21	3.21	0.00
Penalty kills per game	3.13	2.79	-0.34

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2014-2015 Blackhawks

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	3.18	2.91	-0.27
Penalty kills per game	2.57	2.69	+0.12

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

That assumes the style of play is the same.
If the refs are more lenient, players will push the envelope until the same number of penalties are called, but the style of play is still more physical.

This was the problem with the studies that showed there were no "hot streaks" in basketball, they ignored that the defense would respond to a hot player by playing more aggressive defense, and eventually the player would cool off (more low percentage shots). The studies ignored that teams react to what they see on the ice or the court, and modify their behavior.

 

[Rebels57]

If we look at the last five Stanley Cup winners, it doesn't look like the refs are "swallowing their whistles" during their runs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hardly a difference at all and in some cases there's more calls made.


2018-2019 Blues

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	2.89	3.07	+0.18
Penalty kills per game	2.83	2.50	-0.33

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2017-2018 Capitals

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	2.98	3.13	+0.15
Penalty kills per game	3.28	3.13	-0.15

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2016-2017 Penguins

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	3.17	3.12	-0.05
Penalty kills per game	3.13	2.92	-0.21

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2015-2016 Penguins

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	3.21	3.21	0.00
Penalty kills per game	3.13	2.79	-0.34

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2014-2015 Blackhawks

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Powerplays per game	3.18	2.91	-0.27
Penalty kills per game	2.57	2.69	+0.12

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The Penguins having the 2 biggest declines in penalty kills over the last 5 Cups is just f***ing perfect.

 

[Striiker]

The Penguins having the 2 biggest declines in penalty kills over the last 5 Cups is just f***ing perfect.

Must be a coincidence.

Wanna compare it to our 3 previous playoff appearances?

2017-2018 Flyers (vs Pens)

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Penalty kills per game	2.79	4.17	+1.38

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2015-2016 Flyers (vs Caps)

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Penalty kills per game	3.20	4.50	+1.3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2013-2014 Flyers (vs Rags)

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Penalty kills per game	3.85	4.14	+0.29

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[GapToothedWonder]

Who was the rookie that got the double minor for the high stick during the playoffs?

 

[Rebels57]

Who was the rookie that got the double minor for the high stick during the playoffs?

Akeson I believe

 

[Rebels57]

Must be a coincidence.

Wanna compare it to our 3 previous playoff appearances?

2017-2018 Flyers (vs Pens)

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Penalty kills per game	2.79	4.17	+1.38

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2015-2016 Flyers (vs Caps)

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Penalty kills per game	3.20	4.50	+1.3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2013-2014 Flyers (vs Rags)

.	Regular season	Playoffs	Difference
Penalty kills per game	3.85	4.14	+0.29

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

That is shocking. I am shocked.

 

[TheKingPin]

The opposite, history shows that generally playoff hockey is more physical as refs swallow their whistles.
It won't be like a decade ago, but it'll be more physical than regular season play.
And with checking lines faster than a few years ago, finesse players will have smaller windows.

Fletcher didn't decide to add Grant and Thompson on a whim, I'm sure it was a joint decision with AV.
They are insurance against injury but also against young players struggling in the playoffs.

It's a small sample, but if you go back to the 2017-18 playoffs:
Lehtera CF 42.68, xGF 31.19
Read CF 47.31, xGF 35.27
Lindblom CF 38.98, xGF 37.21
Manning CF 48.77 xGF 38.11
Gudas CF 46.75 xGF 39.39
Patrick CF 44.44, xGF 43.20
Sanheim CF 48.00, xGF 43.78
TK CF 45.80, xGF 44.78

best performances:
Simmonds CF 50.0, xGF 55.85
Couts CF 51.75, xGF 54.41
Provorov CF 52.87, xGF 53.45
Laughton CF 55.00, xGF 47.82

Less talented players get exposed in the playoffs, but so do inexperienced players.
Gudas struggled in 2015-16 as well, and that may have been one factor in the trade for Niskanen.

AV may not be comfortable asking Farabee and Frost to play major roles, at least at first until they prove themselves.
So it wouldn't surprise me if AV went with Laughton over Farabee at 2LW. Or a bigger role for a Ghost -Braun pair until Sanheim - Myers show themselves ready.

The round robin will help by allowing young players to get their feet wet.

I think it’s more about depth than toughness in the playoffs. If your third line center is Nolan Patrick with Frost you are good enough to get to the ECF. The top of the teams cancel out. You have battles of the second line for the first round all the way to battles of the fourth lines in the finals. Battles in terms of production or really out producing the other guys’ fourth line. The pens didn’t win their cup by getting tough and taking advantage of less PPs. They got fast as shit.

Not saying Frost and Farabee will be front and center. But if they earn it, they should be there. If Laughton continues his pace and NAK as well then you are happy to keep them in there. That’s best case scenario. Our 3rd and 4th lines would roll over teams.

 

[deadhead]

You rarely see a lot scoring from the bottom two lines in the playoffs. The guys who score are often on the PP as well (in bold).

2018-19: St Louis - Blais (1-2 3), Bozak (5-8 13), Thomas (1-5 6), Barbashev (3-3 6), Steen (2-3 5), Fabbri/Sanford (2-3 5)
2018-19: Boston - Heinen (2-6 8) DeBrusk (4-7 11) Johansson (4-7 11) Nordstrom (3-5 8) Acciari (2-2 4) Wagner/Kuhlman/Backes (5-5 10)
2017-18: Wash: Stephenson (2-5 7) Vrana (3-5 8) Smith-Pelly (7-1 8) Connolly (6-3 9) Beagle (2-6 8) Burakovsky/Chiasson (3-5 8)
2017-18: LGK: Tuch (6-4 10) Eakin (3-1 4) Carpenter (0-5 5) PEB (0-3 3) Nosek (4-2 6) Reaves/Carrier (2-0 2)

 

[Hockeypete49]

Yeah but boy did Laughton look great with Hayes

iTest

I do not care where he plays as long as he is on the Flyers and gets decent minutes.