NHL Entry Draft #19 overall

[FormentonTheFuture]

He did. He said at 19 goalie is not an option and he repeated it in french as well on this mornings presser

It was too obvious.

you guys take media clips way too seriously lol

 

[Micklebot]

Want one of Doroyev, Leason or Afanasyev with our secon but given our history we won't consider Doroyev

 

[DJB]

you guys take media clips way too seriously lol

Its Dorion. It was obvious.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

you guys take media clips way too seriously lol

If only Dorion took being a smart GM seriously...

I just don't understand what he gains from this.

 

[Micklebot]

He did. He said at 19 goalie is not an option and he repeated it in french as well on this mornings presser

It was too obvious.

Dorion kind of reminds me of this guy...

 

[DJB]

If only Dorion took being a smart GM seriously...

I just don't understand what he gains from this.

Exactly. Its just easier to say nothing we will take BPA yada yada then to specifically spout off that we arent taking a goalie to try and look smart or throw off other GMS.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

If only Dorion took being a smart GM seriously...

I just don't understand what he gains from this.

I don't think anything is gained or lost - this regime has never selected a goalie that high. I bet the Sens won't even have the chance to draft Knight. All I took away from it was that he thought the Sens will get a good forward or dman.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Exactly. Its just easier to say nothing we will take BPA yada yada then to specifically spout off that we arent taking a goalie to try and look smart or throw off other GMS.

My point was I very much doubt that is trying to look smart or throw other GMs off. Don't read into these things so hard.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Want one of Doroyev, Leason or Afanasyev with our secon but given our history we won't consider Doroyev

Buy an "f"
Rees would be great at 32.. pardon the 32 talk in the 19 thread

 

[bdp]

all scouts around the league know each other and each others tendencies and opinions. they all know that trent mann won't be picking a goalie in the first. so its not like dorion saying so is tipping their hand or anything

 

[dumbdick]

Who is the equivalent of colin white / josh norris in the 15-30 range? Dollars to doughnuts that's who we take.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Who is the equivalent of colin white / josh norris in the 15-30 range? Dollars to doughnuts that's who we take.

Newhook is similar but more skilled, and the equivalent of Tkachuk is Boldy

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

all scouts around the league know each other and each others tendencies and opinions. they all know that trent mann won't be picking a goalie in the first. so its not like dorion saying so is tipping their hand or anything

In addition, everyone knows we're looking for quick fixes to sell seats. Goalies don't fit that category.

 

[West Coast Eagles]

all scouts around the league know each other and each others tendencies and opinions. they all know that trent mann won't be picking a goalie in the first. so its not like dorion saying so is tipping their hand or anything

I've always wondered about the interactions between scouts. For instance, how much do you think teams know each others lists?

 

[R2010]

I've always wondered about the interactions between scouts. For instance, how much do you think teams know each others lists?

I think they get an idea of players that are liked but not exact lists at least in the lead up to a given draft.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Knight expected to go in the top 10 by some. Man I'd love to get him, everything about him sounds awesome.

 

[OD99]

If that Kaliyev (sp) kid is available would you all take him?

When I read about him being the best goal scorer but maybe has attitude or work ethic issues I don't see the Sens picking him but seems like a guy to take a flyer on with all that natural talent?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Who is the equivalent of colin white / josh norris in the 15-30 range? Dollars to doughnuts that's who we take.

Connor McMichael imo

 

[bdp]

If that Kaliyev (sp) kid is available would you all take him?

When I read about him being the best goal scorer but maybe has attitude or work ethic issues I don't see the Sens picking him but seems like a guy to take a flyer on with all that natural talent?

i wouldn't

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

If that Kaliyev (sp) kid is available would you all take him?

When I read about him being the best goal scorer but maybe has attitude or work ethic issues I don't see the Sens picking him but seems like a guy to take a flyer on with all that natural talent?

He can score no doubt about that. If his compete level was not a concern he would go higher imo. I think its enough to look elsewhere at 19...but that's just me. I like to see the compete level as a strength.

 

[Micklebot]

If that Kaliyev (sp) kid is available would you all take him?

When I read about him being the best goal scorer but maybe has attitude or work ethic issues I don't see the Sens picking him but seems like a guy to take a flyer on with all that natural talent?

Not at 19 for me. He seems so polarizing that he might be closer to our 2nd pick when all is said and done

 

[Sleestak Nation]

Not at 19 for me. He seems so polarizing that he might be closer to our 2nd pick when all is said and done

And if he is, I'd still say pass, especially if Jamieson Rees is available.

Considering his talents and ability I doubt he drops that low, but if he does that's a massive red flag.

 

[stempniaksen]

If that Kaliyev (sp) kid is available would you all take him?

When I read about him being the best goal scorer but maybe has attitude or work ethic issues I don't see the Sens picking him but seems like a guy to take a flyer on with all that natural talent?

Doesn't really seem like the type of guy who fits the Sens MO. Personally I've got him ranked between 18-24 (in my 4th tier) so would have no issues taking a flyer on him at #19. That being said, I wouldn't blame the org in the least for going with a perceived "safer" option like Soderstrom, Heinola or Tomasino.

Really doubt he drops as far as #32, so it becomes a bit of a moot point if the team passes on him at #19.

 

[stempniaksen]

Who is the equivalent of colin white / josh norris in the 15-30 range? Dollars to doughnuts that's who we take.

Phillip Tomasnio sticks out immediately, imo. Not quite as defensively reponsible as the other two guys, but still brings a solid two-way game while flashing lots of speed. I've been selling myself on him recently, and I can't help but shake the feeling it's because he's who I think the Sens will end up with. Just seems to fit their recent drafting MO better than other guys in that range.

 

[Dingleberry]

Sens draft MO in recent years:

1. Draft from CHL, USHL, USNDTP, Canadian or US Junior A, Sweden. Probably not from Finland or Russia
2. Projectable frame - not necessarily big and tall, but "thick" players with good lower body strenght and room to grow
3. Don't draft if character concerns - doesn't mean they target high character players with limited skill
4. Good progession - player needs to show marked improvement during their draft year, aka "risers"
5. Not afraid to take overagers early and often - but needs to show #4.

From Bob's list I think these could be realistic targets (including trade-up) that check every box

#13. Alex Newhook - BCHL
#14. Victor Soderstrom - Sweden
#17. Thomas Harley - OHL
#18. Cam York - USNDPT
#20. Ryan Suzuki - OHL
#22. Philip Tomasino - OHL
#24. Samuel Poulin - QMJHL