GDT: #17| Vancouver Canucks @ New York Islanders | November 13th | 7:00 PM | F/W 5-2

[MJF]

I tend to hold less weight in rookie performances than most, especially after Strome completely dropped off the face of the planet when he failed to get faster and stronger.

I’m not saying Beauvillier = Strome, but both were weak on their skates here and neither have the size or speed to overcome that (at least right now).

A competent coaching staff makes me take a fresh look at everything and wonder if the prior management dropped the ball on guys like Strome.

 

[MIK55]

Shades of the Boss v Vancouver circa 1982.

I will never forget that goal as long as I live. I get that the Bobby Orr flying through the air after scoring the cup winner in 1970 is memorable. But I have never understood why Bossy's extraordinary goal has never been viewed in almost the same light. HE WAS OFF HIS FEET WHEN HE GATHERED THE PUCK THEN SHOT IT. I remember watching it in 1982 when it happened and it still stuns me no matter how many times I see it.

 

[BrockLobster]

Been out of the loop for a little bit and only saw the Ovechkuhnackl goal lol.

Did we look as good as a 5-2 score line looks?

Edit- any line changes / injuries happen?

Isles Completely dominated the 1st and 3rd. 2nd was 50/50.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Isles Completely dominated the 1st and 3rd. 2nd was 50/50.

Gracias, but most importantly how was our PDO?

 

[BrockLobster]

Gracias, but most importantly how was our PDO?

Solid, especially the 1st. 3 goals on like 8 shots.

 

[pursuit81]

I will never forget that goal as long as I live. I get that the Bobby Orr flying through the air after scoring the cup winner in 1970 is memorable. But I have never understood why Bossy's extraordinary goal has never been viewed in almost the same light. HE WAS OFF HIS FEET WHEN HE GATHERED THE PUCK THEN SHOT IT. I remember watching it in 1982 when it happened and it still stuns me no matter how many times I see it.

As you note, Orr went flying AFTER the goal, but the goal itself was pretty UNREMARKABLE, except for the stakes involved. Bossy scored WHILE flying, from the backhand and got good wood on it! Still my favorite goal ever.

 

[Uncle Duke]

As you note, Orr went flying AFTER the goal, but the goal itself was pretty UNREMARKABLE, except for the stakes involved. Bossy scored WHILE flying, from the backhand and got good wood on it! Still my favorite goal ever.

I was 24 at the time living in BC working on an oil rig but I was from NY and a huge Isles fan. We had a little 12 inch b&w television and we could barely get signal but I will never forget watching that goal and straining to see the replays because I couldn't believe what I saw. I bought the VHS tape of the Isles 3rd SC win the second it came out just so I could see that goal again in color and more clearly.

 

[PK Cronin]

Depending on the severity of Ladd's injury Beau may have bought a stay of execution.

If I were making the decisions I'd send Beauvillier down today. Giving Beau limited 4th line minutes isn't going to help him up here. He's not contributing. Kuhnackl steps in, contributes, and when Ladd gets hurt it's Kuhnackl who finds himself on the power play filling Ladd's spot.

We have to get passed the thought of "why are we sitting a more talented player who is not contributing in favor of a less talented player, play the guy with more upside because he MIGHT start playing better". If the more talented player isn't contributing he shouldn't play. That's accountability.

Send Beauvillier down and call up Dal Colle.

I don't mind him being sent down, I mind the criticism about a player who isn't being given any minutes right now. Does he deserve minutes? Probably not at this point. Ride Kuhnhackl while he's hot and get Beauvillier on the right path.

 

[Uncle Duke]

I don't mind him being sent down, I mind the criticism about a player who isn't being given any minutes right now. Does he deserve minutes? Probably not at this point. Ride Kuhnhackl while he's hot and get Beauvillier on the right path.

Agree with everyone else, 4th line grinder minutes are not going to do him any good. It's not his game. Beau must go. For his sake and the teams.

 

[doublechili]

I will never forget that goal as long as I live. I get that the Bobby Orr flying through the air after scoring the cup winner in 1970 is memorable. But I have never understood why Bossy's extraordinary goal has never been viewed in almost the same light. HE WAS OFF HIS FEET WHEN HE GATHERED THE PUCK THEN SHOT IT. I remember watching it in 1982 when it happened and it still stuns me no matter how many times I see it.

You guys are touching on a pet peeve of mine - how underrated that Bossy goal was. It is absolutely the greatest goal I've ever seen. The problem is that someone needs to watch it a few times in slo mo to really understand what they are seeing and how great it was. As others have said, Orr's goal was great but he actually started "flying" after he shot. Bossy had just started shifting the puck from his forehand when his feet left the ice. While off the ice he completed bringing the puck to his backhand and then while horizontal he shot the backhand with pace just inside the post to beat the goalie clean. Just crazy. And it was a backhand - not just a flick of the wrists like a forehand - it requires lots of body and arm action. Best goal ever.

 

[Chardo]

I will never forget that goal as long as I live. I get that the Bobby Orr flying through the air after scoring the cup winner in 1970 is memorable. But I have never understood why Bossy's extraordinary goal has never been viewed in almost the same light. HE WAS OFF HIS FEET WHEN HE GATHERED THE PUCK THEN SHOT IT. I remember watching it in 1982 when it happened and it still stuns me no matter how many times I see it.

Orr's goal was a walk off cup winner. Like Nystrom.

 

[doublechili]

Orr's goal was a walk off cup winner. Like Nystrom.

Right, but I think we're talking mostly degree of difficulty. Orr's goal was memorable mostly because it was a Cup-winner with an iconic photographic ending. But it was not a particularly great or difficult goal otherwise. Bossy's goal was in a Cup final, but the degree of difficulty was off the charts.

 

[Uncle Duke]

You guys are touching on a pet peeve of mine - how underrated that Bossy goal was. It is absolutely the greatest goal I've ever seen. The problem is that someone needs to watch it a few times in slo mo to really understand what they are seeing and how great it was. As others have said, Orr's goal was great but he actually started "flying" after he shot. Bossy had just started shifting the puck from his forehand when his feet left the ice. While off the ice he completed bringing the puck to his backhand and then while horizontal he shot the backhand with pace just inside the post to beat the goalie clean. Just crazy. And it was a backhand - not just a flick of the wrists like a forehand - it requires lots of body and arm action. Best goal ever.

I met Bossy on a few occasions in his playing days. Crazy ripped forearms.

 

[Stercrazy]

Hope he was wearing a Canucks jersey. My daughter is a Rags fan (don't ask) and beating them with her sitting to my left the last three years at the Barclays Center has made what was already a joy into something truly amazing.

He's a pretty knowledgeable hockey fan and understands where both teams were at. He also figured his team would lose....lol.
With that said, we guessed about 8k fans were there and 1/5th Canucks fans. Kind of disappointing. The color guard for the anthem was from McGuire air Force Base which is pretty close to where I live so that was cool.

 

[doublechili]

I met Bossy on a few occasions in his playing days. Crazy ripped forearms.

Probably explains his ability to rip a backhand with zero leverage!

 

[mm11]

I was 24 at the time living in BC working on an oil rig but I was from NY and a huge Isles fan. We had a little 12 inch b&w television and we could barely get signal but I will never forget watching that goal and straining to see the replays because I couldn't believe what I saw. I bought the VHS tape of the Isles 3rd SC win the second it came out just so I could see that goal again in color and more clearly.

good stuff. I was 12 years old watching a black and white from the mean streets of my parents Massapequa home..

 

[MIK55]

You guys are touching on a pet peeve of mine

Pet peeve of mine, too. The great irony is that I remember that goal when it was scored but until recently, I thought Orr was off his feet when he shot the puck. Not to take anything away from Orr, but what Bossy did while horizontal to the ice gets highest marks for degree of difficulty.

 

[MIK55]

With that said, we guessed about 8k fans were there and 1/5th Canucks fans.

It was about 8500. You are right about Canucks fans. At least it wasn't as bad as the Montreal game about a week ago. Full of Habs fans. Very upsetting for this reason -- I am absolutely unable to watch a shootout so at the game I usually cover my eyes and listen for the crowd noise so I know how the shot came out. The big cheer after Montreal won in the shootout fooled me.

 

[Steve55]

He's a pretty knowledgeable hockey fan and understands where both teams were at. He also figured his team would lose....lol.
With that said, we guessed about 8k fans were there and 1/5th Canucks fans. Kind of disappointing. The color guard for the anthem was from McGuire air Force Base which is pretty close to where I live so that was cool.

It was about 8500. You are right about Canucks fans. At least it wasn't as bad as the Montreal game about a week ago. Full of Habs fans. Very upsetting for this reason -- I am absolutely unable to watch a shootout so at the game I usually cover my eyes and listen for the crowd noise so I know how the shot came out. The big cheer after Montreal won in the shootout fooled me.

I saw last night's game on Sportsnet Pacific (Canucks feed). Isles dominated first and 3rd to earn the win, but the atmosphere just sucked (empty black seats in the lower bowl). I wonder how much Isles would have drawn had this game was at Coliseum.

Event Summary

Paid attendance was 8806

 

[Uncle Duke]

It was about 8500. You are right about Canucks fans. At least it wasn't as bad as the Montreal game about a week ago. Full of Habs fans. Very upsetting for this reason -- I am absolutely unable to watch a shootout so at the game I usually cover my eyes and listen for the crowd noise so I know how the shot came out. The big cheer after Montreal won in the shootout fooled me.

I absolutely believe that playing in front of a lot empty seats with more white noise than crowd noise costs us at least a couple of games a year. (Not a knock on the fans - it's the building.) We've got to get out of there! All Coliseum all the time until the new building goes up.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I will never forget that goal as long as I live. I get that the Bobby Orr flying through the air after scoring the cup winner in 1970 is memorable. But I have never understood why Bossy's extraordinary goal has never been viewed in almost the same light. HE WAS OFF HIS FEET WHEN HE GATHERED THE PUCK THEN SHOT IT. I remember watching it in 1982 when it happened and it still stuns me no matter how many times I see it.

Simple answer: Don Cherry.

For years, Cherry was showing that play on 'Hockey Night in Canada', and always talking about Orr scoring while flying through the air after being tripped. It was pointed out several times that he scored, then jumped afterwards. Finally, Cherry stopped lying about it, and for a while stopped showing it all the time.

Orr was a great player, but he also arrived at a time when the league had just doubled in size, the WHA was starting, and coaches were just beginning to let defencemen carry the puck. (Toe Blake told Doug Harvey, another great skating defenceman, that he would be fined every time he carried the puck across centre.) Orr was a large part of the team that won a couple of cups for Cherry, and Don has been telling everyone that Orr is the greatest player of all time ever since.

Bossy just never had the PR man that Bobby did.

 

[Glory Days]

Probably explains his ability to rip a backhand with zero leverage!

And a real nice guy. My son was wearing his Bossy jersey to a game a few years ago and we were walking through the concourse right near the elevator to the luxury suites. Bossy was being escorted to the elevator up to the suites when he sees my son and he stops and turns around and walks towards my son. I see Bossy coming and stop my son. Bossy signs his jersey, takes a picture and then heads back up to his suite.

 

[doublechili]

And a real nice guy. My son was wearing his Bossy jersey to a game a few years ago and we were walking through the concourse right near the elevator to the luxury suites. Bossy was being escorted to the elevator up to the suites when he sees my son and he stops and turns around and walks towards my son. I see Bossy coming and stop my son. Bossy signs his jersey, takes a picture and then heads back up to his suite.

That's awesome!

 

[crasherino]

And a real nice guy. My son was wearing his Bossy jersey to a game a few years ago and we were walking through the concourse right near the elevator to the luxury suites. Bossy was being escorted to the elevator up to the suites when he sees my son and he stops and turns around and walks towards my son. I see Bossy coming and stop my son. Bossy signs his jersey, takes a picture and then heads back up to his suite.

I've been dealing with a guy in business for the past 15 years or so from Laval. He never passes up the chance to say what a great guy Mike Bossy is and how proud he is that he's from Laval.

 

[Hunn]

Simple answer: Don Cherry.

For years, Cherry was showing that play on 'Hockey Night in Canada', and always talking about Orr scoring while flying through the air after being tripped. It was pointed out several times that he scored, then jumped afterwards. Finally, Cherry stopped lying about it, and for a while stopped showing it all the time.

Orr was a great player, but he also arrived at a time when the league had just doubled in size, the WHA was starting, and coaches were just beginning to let defencemen carry the puck. (Toe Blake told Doug Harvey, another great skating defenceman, that he would be fined every time he carried the puck across centre.) Orr was a large part of the team that won a couple of cups for Cherry, and Don has been telling everyone that Orr is the greatest player of all time ever since.

Bossy just never had the PR man that Bobby did.

As far as I know, Cherry has never won a Cup in any capacity.