GDT: #17: Blackhawks 0 at FLYERS 4, Saturday, Nov. 10, 2018, 1:00 p.m. ET

[Tripod]

I expect us to make the playoffs this year. And I don't expect Hakstol to get fired anytime soon.

The question is, will Hextall do anything to fix our goaltending issues. Because with this goalie lineup we may as well not make the playoffs.
I wonder what it would cost to acquire Crawford at the deadline. The Hawks are obviously not a playoff team this year. Would Hextall be willing to trade a 1st? Maybe it's time to prove that playoffs mean more to him than the draft.

As Curu has pointed out, Elliott is top 10 in SV% at ES this year. It's our PK that is killing us....and his numbers.

Pick and Neuvirth both suck at ES so far though.

 

[TCTC]

As Curu has pointed out, Elliott is top 10 in SV% at ES this year. It's our PK that is killing us....and his numbers.

Pick and Neuvirth both suck at ES so far though.

Even if his numbers are decent now and even if he continues to play well for the rest of the regular season, we know he's not going to help us in the playoffs. He's not a playoff goalie and he'll never be one.

 

[Tripod]

Even if his numbers are decent now and even if he continues to play well for the rest of the regular season, we know he's not going to help us in the playoffs. He's not a playoff goalie and he'll never be one.

The numbers do agree with you.

Not to mention, we NEED a legit starter for a 2-3 years to pair with Hart and we have no one signed that can be that right now.

 

[Striiker]

I expect us to make the playoffs this year. And I don't expect Hakstol to get fired anytime soon.

The question is, will Hextall do anything to fix our goaltending issues. Because with this goalie lineup we may as well not make the playoffs.
I wonder what it would cost to acquire Crawford at the deadline. The Hawks are obviously not a playoff team this year. Would Hextall be willing to trade a 1st? Maybe it's time to prove that playoffs mean more to him than the draft.

You can prove that playoffs are important without making a bad value trade.

A 1st round pick (plus?) for a 34 year old goalie would be dumb.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

a 34 year old goalie coming off some pretty serious concussion issues?
Crawford is 31st in GAA and 28th in save percentage. easy pass for me.

 

[magnumpi]

a first, a 2nd for crawford is ridiculous.

I looked up Crawford's info.
He was full-time in the AHL for 4 seasons before becoming the regular starter.

I don't think we should assume Hart will be ready next season.

I'd assume needing a 3-4 season bridge.

 

[flyershockey]

a first, a 2nd for crawford is ridiculous.

I looked up Crawford's info.
He was full-time in the AHL for 4 seasons before becoming the regular starter.

I don't think we should assume Hart will be ready next season.

I'd assume needing a 3-4 season bridge.

If Myers and Sanheim weren't full time contributors to the big club at the age of 21, what do you think Hart's chances are?

 

[magnumpi]

If Myers and Sanheim weren't full time contributors to the big club at the age of 21, what do you think Hart's chances are?

no idea,

just pointing out a fact about crawford to keep in mind about Hart's progress.

not saying its good or bad

 

[Deadpool8812]

The numbers do agree with you.

Not to mention, we NEED a legit starter for a 2-3 years to pair with Hart and we have no one signed that can be that right now.

I fully expect Elliot to get a 2-3 year extension. It's just such a Hextall move

Elliot/Lyon next season for the Flyers and Hart/Sandstrom with the Phantoms. Stolarz likely will be gone this summer

 

[Rebels57]

no idea,

just pointing out a fact about crawford to keep in mind about Hart's progress.

not saying its good or bad

Yeah we really should be looking into Bobrovksy, Varlamov of the trade market.

 

[magnumpi]

Im sure this has been discussed but I didn't know and I find it interesting.

Lundquist didn't become the regular goalie until 23-24 yrs old.
Hart is 20 yrs old right now.

I think we're making big assumptions thinking Hart is going to be ready next season or the one after.

A three year bridge of someone like Bob may not be a bad idea.

I've heard talk about how when Hart is ready then we'll be ready to take out.
Well, that may mean waiting for 3 more seasons.

Just throwing this out there.
Not preaching this is as dogma

 

[TCTC]

Yeah, we can't view Hart as the final piece to being a contender. The Hawks didn't wait for Crawford, the Bruins didn't wait for Rask. We have to solve the Goalie situation now.
A proven veteran playoff goalie for 2-3 years would be ideal.

 

[AdamParrot]

a 34 year old goalie coming off some pretty serious concussion issues?
Crawford is 31st in GAA and 28th in save percentage. easy pass for me.

Crawford is TOP8 goalie in the league...

 

[Beef Invictus]

Yeah, we can't view Hart as the final piece to being a contender. The Hawks didn't wait for Crawford, the Bruins didn't wait for Rask. We have to solve the Goalie situation now.
A proven veteran playoff goalie for 2-3 years would be ideal.

Waiting for Hart means burning even more of Voracek and Giroux's primes than we've already wasted with Berube and Hakstol.

 

[mja]

I'm totally on board with upgrading in net. There's no reason we shouldn't be trying to actually start winning multiple playoff series this year. I'd prefer a guy like Lundqvist who fits the timeline better instead of a guy like Bob who's likely to break the bank with his next contract. If you're going with a guy like Bob, then I'd rather keep the term short and go high on AAV, if he's up for that.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Im sure this has been discussed but I didn't know and I find it interesting.

Lundquist didn't become the regular goalie until 23-24 yrs old.
Hart is 20 yrs old right now.

I think we're making big assumptions thinking Hart is going to be ready next season or the one after.

A three year bridge of someone like Bob may not be a bad idea.

I've heard talk about how when Hart is ready then we'll be ready to take out.
Well, that may mean waiting for 3 more seasons.

Just throwing this out there.
Not preaching this is as dogma

Yep. And Goalies are still voodoo to a strong degree. A crazy month shouldn’t get him a promotion.

I know Hextall’s long patience is annoying in many cases, but this is one where we really need to relax and let him develop.

 

[TCTC]

I'm totally on board with upgrading in net. There's no reason we shouldn't be trying to actually start winning multiple playoff series this year. I'd prefer a guy like Lundqvist who fits the timeline better instead of a guy like Bob who's likely to break the bank with his next contract. If you're going with a guy like Bob, than I'd rather keep the term short and go high on AAV, if he's up for that.

Henrik Lundqvist, the destroyer of our hopes and dreams, playing for the Flyers. I'd love that.

 

[deadhead]

JJ’s reaction was priceless haha. He was stunned and called the shot a mile wide (a mile showing his Herculean strength tbf) and said he had no idea what Hagg was aiming at.

Actually, sometimes defensemen deliberately shoot to miss the net to get a rebound off the boards into the slot, I've seen it done against the Flyers more than once this season.
Now whether that was Hagg's intent, ???

 

[achdumeingute]

Henrik Lundqvist, the destroyer of our hopes and dreams, playing for the Flyers. I'd love that.

and for this to happen, it's probably going to const more than we want, being a metro team and all.

Unless the rags just want to do Lundy a favor.

 

[deadhead]

I don't think it'll take Hart three years to be NHL ready, but it may take more than one.
But just say no to Bob, he'll cost way too much and he has a horrible playoff record.
Elliott is a better bet in the post-season than Bob:

Bob: 24 games, 5-14, .891
Elliott 43 games, 16-23, .903

 

[TCTC]

and for this to happen, it's probably going to const more than we want, being a metro team and all.

Unless the rags just want to do Lundy a favor.

The question is, what are we willing to pay? Getting a Lundqvist type goaltender would be a pretty significant upgrade after all, turning us into an instant Cup contender.

 

[mja]

and for this to happen, it's probably going to const more than we want, being a metro team and all.

Unless the rags just want to do Lundy a favor.

I don't think it'll cost that much, especially if you pull the trigger this year when he has quite a bit of term left. A 2nd, a lesser prospect but one with real NHL upside, one of the goalies. Something like that gets you there, I think.

And Lundqvist would probably prefer to stay close to NY, which works in our favor.

 

[mja]

and for this to happen, it's probably going to const more than we want, being a metro team and all.

Unless the rags just want to do Lundy a favor.

I don't think it'll cost that much, especially if you pull the trigger this year when he has quite a bit of term left. A 2nd, a lesser prospect but one with real NHL upside, one of the goalies. Something like that gets you there, I think.

And Lundqvist would probably prefer to stay close to NY, which works in our favor.

 

[achdumeingute]

The question is, what are we willing to pay? Getting a Lundqvist type goaltender would be a pretty significant upgrade after all, turning us into an instant Cup contender.

this team is FAR from seriously contending, regardless who is in goal.

 

[onlylordsvsmorebp]

I know Hextall’s long patience is annoying in many cases, but this is one where we really need to relax and let him develop.

agree. which is why WE NEED to get an actual top-end goalie now...whos an actual option?? VARLY? BOB? LUNDQUIST? who else??

just my opinion but still pissed we didnt go after (admittedly unproven) MARKSTROM...