Patrick put up 30 pts as a teenager playing limited minutes most of the season and played center in the NHL and he was coming off of Hernia surgery. Patrick for #2 would be fair, but would not add another 1st. I'm partial to keeping the player that is the C because we can roll for the next decade with our top 2 C's as Couturier & Patrick that's p sweet.
McKenzie: “…the #2 pick is very much up for grabs…”/The 2OA Thread
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Patrick put up 30 pts as a teenager playing limited minutes most of the season and played center in the NHL and he was coming off of Hernia surgery. Patrick for #2 would be fair, but would not add another 1st. I'm partial to keeping the player that is the C because we can roll for the next decade with our top 2 C's as Couturier & Patrick that's p sweet.
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nope, it'll take a huge overpayment for svech ot be dealt. there's no point to listen to a barrage of ridiculous offers
I can't say I'm necessarily surprised. Didn't the owner say they're too soft to play against? I wouldn't be shocked if they DO want Tkachuk but don't feel the need to use #2 on him and could trade down to the 4-6 spot to get him instead while acquiring extra assets.
Of course, I still think they'd benefit from having Svechnikov or Zadina much more than using their pick on Tkachuk, but whatever.
Of course, I still think they'd benefit from having Svechnikov or Zadina much more than using their pick on Tkachuk, but whatever.
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They say this every year with top 10 picks, usually the 3rd pick, and nothing ever happens. This is likely to continue.
I can't see a trade that wouldn't cause me to abandon my fandom that would likely happen. (Sure I'd take McDavid but the Oilers would NEVER make that offer)
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Just my 2 Beans..
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Hani is worth more than Pac and 2nd is worth more than the 3rd.
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Personally I'm not against dealing it, it would just need to be for a very specific kind of player.
i.e. adding a lot onto it to get Barkov. (Slavin + 2nd OA for Barkov+?)
i.e. adding a lot onto it to get Barkov. (Slavin + 2nd OA for Barkov+?)
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I get that he is the consensus number 2 amongst scouts but how close is he really? Not being an ass I am legitimately asking your opinion. Dahlin by all accounts is the best defensive prospect in 20+ years. Is Svech the best winger prospect in the same amount of time?
Care to explain why?
Same as above. Care to explain why?
Do you think you’d have to add to ROR for Patrik Laine? I think Svechnikov is the same type of elite goal scorer. Are you overrating ROR or underrating Svechnikov?
Position is important but it’s possible that Svechnikov will outscore ROR every season of his career. Factor in the age, ELC, ceiling as a Superstar, etc. and it becomes pretty easy to see.
Hanifin value ~= Top-5 Pick
So you think Pacioretty is worth the 2nd Overall pick? Holy hell. Every offer in this thread is predictably terrible. Wonder why these picks never get moved...
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Probably underrating Svech. When Laine isn't scoring goals what is he bringing to the table though? Quite honestly not much from what I've seen so far. He has lots to learn still and can still grow his game obviously. I would never argue against Svech outscoring ROR but ROR brings a lot more to the game than pointz.
I get his ceiling is a superstar but what's his floor? Can he still be a productive NHLer if the scoring doesn't translate?
I guess my question is now, how much does Buffalo have to add to ROR to get 2OA?
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i wouldn't call svech an elite goal srorer, but he's a much more better playmaker than laine will ever be.
Omg how could I say no that. The higher the round the better.Well give you our 2nd (Rounder) for your 2nd. (Pick)
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Dahlin would only be considered for McDavid in a trade, Svec is an elite 2nd overall(favourite to go 2nd), the trade value isn't from McDavid to ROR with these 2 picks.
He's close to Eichel/Laine value, not there but close I would say.
Like Carolina fans have said it should take a proven u23y #1C in a trade to get that pick, which is never happening.
Passing, physicality, and probably the biggest, a constant threat to score from anywhere, which opens a ton of space for his linemates. Opponents constantly cheat to cover him.
You can see this on pp where Scheifele has space.
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