Yep, I’m not even mad at the NMC. Him having Kaprizov as a best friend was basically a NMC anyways.It could be worse
Yep, I’m not even mad at the NMC. Him having Kaprizov as a best friend was basically a NMC anyways.It could be worse
Do you see where the defense goes?The same Kap who had 1 point? Nice hyperbole...
As I said, back to lurking for me...
Gotta see them willing to move him down the lineup when he's struggling first. So far? It's never happens.Hopefully he can still be an effective 1st liner for this year, then a decent 2nd liner next year, and 2/3rd line guy the year after that. He is a good offensive player, and seemingly well liked.
Great players produce regardless. Yes bad playoffs happen especially when just coming off injury, but it can't just be that the D is following Kap so Zuccarello scores because of it. Boogaard isn't doing that and you know it...hence the hyperbole. His numbers have improved in the playoffs every year he's been here...even not healthy he must be doing something right.Do you see where the defense goes?
They keep saying the cap will go up next year but it keeps not happening, so I'll have to see it to believe it.The only bad thing about this contract is that it will make next year a bit tighter than we hoped, but if the cap goes up a couple few million, and young ELC guys nab some starting jobs then we are in ok shape.
I see a few reasons to do it - but also see a few reasons NOT to do it. So I'm lukewarm.There was zero reason to do this deal today, given his decline last year.
I see a few reasons to do it - but also see a few reasons NOT to do it. So I'm lukewarm.
I really do hope we don't sign Hartman this early though.
Because based on last season it's at least somewhat questionable that the production is going to maintain. I can see that side of it.For his production how are any of you guys complaining about this? Great deal for the team
If I'm in the agent's shoes, if he produces again at around 60-70 points, you could argue that he hasn't lost a step, and should be command closer to 5mil. I can see that squeeze happening.What are the reasons to do it now? He's not going to be any more expensive if he has another season like the last couple.
A certain poster makes everything about him and can be rather annoying. Also, his play has definitely declined from what it was. His point totals are a bit misleading, but I still think this is a good deal.For his production how are any of you guys complaining about this? Great deal for the team
Because there was pressure on Guerin too. Zucc would've had zero problems getting a job on another NHL team. They love him here, and didn't want to lose him.What are the reasons to do it now? He's not going to be any more expensive if he has another season like the last couple.
I don't mind the move, I mind the NMC.Great players produce regardless. Yes bad playoffs happen especially when just coming off injury, but it can't just be that the D is following Kap so Zuccarello scores because of it. Boogaard isn't doing that and you know it...hence the hyperbole. His numbers have improved in the playoffs every year he's been here...even not healthy he must be doing something right.
Again, this move is more about Kaprizov than him. They're not going to move out Zuccarello until they have to and they didn't have to.
Zucc has zero motive to leave either though, as he's not likely to get a better linemate than Kap anywhere he goes.Because there was pressure on Guerin too. Zucc would've had zero problems getting a job on another NHL team. They love him here, and didn't want to lose him.
I believe a 2 yr extension is what he wanted, that's 3 more years including this season. I also think this has been their plan for a long time.
I don’t think that Zuccarello is really blocking any prospect. Realistically, the prospects that are near NHL ready are either here (Faber, Rossi) or are locked into this season over seas (Khusnutdinov, Yurov, Ohgren). When they do arrive/improve, I expect they will get the spots currently occupied by Hartman and Foligno.All in all im fine with it. Does the NMC suck? yes. Id like to see some players that arent apart of our future moved for picks. Is it the end of the world or a bad deal? Id say no. Seems like a fair deal for a decent forward.
At some point id like to see some of the young players play in the big league. I am getting a little tired of hearing about "how good our farm system is" and not really seeing any results but that might just be me and getting some fatigue towards some of the players like Zucc, Foligno, Goli, Flower, etc. And thats not a shot at those players im just ready for the future now i guess.
I guess i kinda view this team as a MN Vikings team led by Kirk Cousins, Hard to get excited for. Maybe thatll change once the puck drops.
All very fair points and it really didn’t cross my mind that Zucc isn’t blocking anyone in the farm system.I don’t think that Zuccarello is really blocking any prospect. Realistically, the prospects that are near NHL ready are either here (Faber, Rossi) or are locked into this season over seas (Khusnutdinov, Yurov, Ohgren). When they do arrive/improve, I expect they will get the spots currently occupied by Hartman and Foligno.
It would be nice to have some young blood on the left side of the blue line. I doubt they would touch a Lambos-Addison 3rd pairing tho.
One thing I've learned in the past few seasons though is you should not rely on line chemistry too much when signing deals. It gives alot of leverage to the player when negotiation but its too unreliable from the Wild's standpoint.His contract ends when Kaprizov’s does.