Zaitsev vs Larsson (oil)

[CantHaveTkachev]

Larsson is too slow.

Hall would have been perfect for McDavid.

Draisaitl could center his own line and it could have been Mcdavid Hall Draisaitl similar to Matthews Nylander Marner.

Too bad chiarelli messed that up.

so who plays defense then? the same garbage corps as we had in 2015?

and Taylor Hall sucked with McDavid...both are playmakers that need the puck on their sticks

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Zaitsev quite easily. This year will further cement that fact.

Oil overpayed big time for Larsson, however, that's not all together surprising considering who their GM is. He likes to overpay, both in trade and contract.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

oilers are a few pieces away from being the leafs.

A couple of pieces subtracted from the Oilers, I'll give you that.

 

[leafsfan1234]

oilers are a few pieces away from being the leafs.

More like a half a dozen, forward depth isn't even close. Oilers better pray Puljujarvi doesn't bust.

 

[McFlyingV]

More like a half a dozen, forward depth isn't even close. Oilers better pray Puljujarvi doesn't bust.

Puljujarvi and Yamamoto panning out is very important. Luckily Yam is already impressing and Jesse has time to adapt to the North American game. If they both turn into good top 6 forwards the Oilers will be laughing.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

A couple of pieces subtracted from the Oilers, I'll give you that.

what does this even mean? Even you have to admit the Leafs have more pieces

 

[YakDavid]

Larsson is too slow.

Hall would have been perfect for McDavid.

Draisaitl could center his own line and it could have been Mcdavid Hall Draisaitl similar to Matthews Nylander Marner.

Too bad chiarelli messed that up.

Then you never watched the team or know about hall. They were not good for each other at all. Both like the puck on their stick.
Draisaitl centered Hall when he was in edmonton

 

[A1LeafNation]

Then you never watched the team or know about hall. They were not good for each other at all. Both like the puck on their stick.
Draisaitl centered Hall when he was in edmonton

Nylander Matthews play better after more than half a season together.

McDavid and hall weren't put in that position.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Puljujarvi and Yamamoto panning out is very important. Luckily Yam is already impressing and Jesse has time to adapt to the North American game. If they both turn into good top 6 forwards the Oilers will be laughing.

If they don't, the Oilers will be f***ed

 

[Leafsrock95]

Zaitsev if you watch hockey it's obvious. What's the basis of Larson being better?? That's he's better defensively? Not by much. it doesn't matter anyway because Zaitsev is one of the better 2 way dmen and he is still getting better.

Larson has no offensive game at. How many seasons did it take for Larson to score what zaitsev has in his first season and 7 games?? Lmao

 

[sparxx87]

Nylander Matthews play better after more than half a season together.

McDavid and hall weren't put in that position.

I think a lot of people predicted they wouldn’t have great chemistry... they both create a lot by speeding through the neutral zone with the puck, and there’s only one puck.

You can argue the value of the deal, but I give props to Chiarelli for having the balls the pull the trigger on it. He had a top line player that wasn’t a fit with their cornerstone, and flipped him for a young RH defensive d that he desperately needed.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Zaitsev if you watch hockey it's obvious. What's the basis of Larson being better?? That's he's better defensively? Not by much. it doesn't matter anyway because Zaitsev is one of the better 2 way dmen and he is still getting better.

Larson has no offensive game at. How many seasons did it take for Larson to score what zaitsev has in his first season and 7 games?? Lmao

How many points did Zaitsev get in his last 3-4 games? Oh right the same as Larsson, 1.
Larsson is a rock defensively compared to Zaitsev, its not even close. I don't think you've watched Larsson since he's been an Oiler, past your bedtime.

 

[YakDavid]

Nylander Matthews play better after more than half a season together.

McDavid and hall weren't put in that position.

But Hall and McDavid are both puck carriers, it just didn't work and the fact that you spend have a season to get it going is too late.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Fantastic thread, 188 posts and 160 votes.

 

[jaric1862]

Close but Zaitsev is better. They are similar defensively but Zaitsev is better offensively.

Next up Hainsey vs Russell

 

[Chef de Cuisine]

Larsson AINEC

 

[ManofSteel55]

Zaitsev quite easily. This year will further cement that fact.

Oil overpayed big time for Larsson, however, that's not all together surprising considering who their GM is. He likes to overpay, both in trade and contract.

He also likes to build contenders.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Zaitsev if you watch hockey it's obvious. What's the basis of Larson being better?? That's he's better defensively? Not by much. it doesn't matter anyway because Zaitsev is one of the better 2 way dmen and he is still getting better.

Larson has no offensive game at. How many seasons did it take for Larson to score what zaitsev has in his first season and 7 games?? Lmao

Funny that you pull out the "if you watch hockey", but then your last sentence is the ramblings of someone who just reads the stat line. It took Larsson seasons to develop his offensive game because New Jersey was using him in a pure shutdown role. Hard to put up points with no offensive zone starts, playing shut down against the top line of the other time.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Leafsrock95: You give Leafs fans a bad name by your logic. Zaitsev was a 7 years pro, before he joined the NHL, so he should have been more advanced than a rookie Larsson.
Every team, would love to Zaitsev or Larsson especially at their cap hits. Kinda silly to have these comparisons "Who is better? " Of course if this site has a bunch of nine year old kids on it, saying "Who is better?" yea it's relevant.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

He also likes to build contenders.

The Bruins, sure.

What exactly has he built in Edmonton? Does he get credit for drafting Draisatl or being gifted the best player in the game? He already had the foundation and it looks like he's doing his best to tear it down.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Next up Nylander vs Draisaitl . Or have we had that already ? Or Marner vs the NHL. Connor Brown is better than Nuge am I right

Oh don't worry they've already convinced themselves that Nylander is superior to Draisaitl.

They're just hurt because the Oilers 3 pieces at forward (McDavid, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi) are greater than their big three (Matthews, Nylander, Marner) and the Oilers top 4 (Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera, Nurse) is miles ahead of (Rielly, Gardiner, Zaitsev, Hainsey). So they have to make a poll about it every week.

 

[IPS]

Oh don't worry they've already convinced themselves that Nylander is superior to Draisaitl.

They're just hurt because the Oilers 3 pieces at forward (McDavid, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi) are greater than their big three (Matthews, Nylander, Marner) and the Oilers top 4 (Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera, Nurse) is miles ahead of (Rielly, Gardiner, Zaitsev, Hainsey). So they have to make a poll about it every week.

I think Puljujarvi should worry about making the NHL first before being thrown in a comparison against an elite young talent like Marner or Nylander.

But it will be very interesting to see how Draisaitl fares off of McDavid's wing. I believe he'll be around a 50-point center with good possession numbers, which is a damn good player in today's league. Extremely overpaid though.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Lol I never said that all the leaf players are much better then the Oilers or jets players so I'm not sure what your even talking about.

When you have oil fans saying things like:

"Larsson by alot, Leafs don't have a single Dman as good as him"

I'm going to call you out.

For reference, nhl.com has gardiner as the 29th best dman, zaitsev 42, rielly 49. Larsson isn't even on the list while klefbom is 38. So this poster thinks your top 2 d are better than anything the leafs have. Talk about being biased

Did you really just use NHL.com as a reputable source to decide which defenseman is better?

Klefbom is superior to any leafs defenseman, and Larsson would arguably be the #1 in Toronto, and would most certainly be on the top-pair.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I think Puljujarvi should worry about making the NHL first before being thrown in a comparison against an elite young talent like Marner or Nylander.

But it will be very interesting to see how Draisaitl fares off of McDavid's wing. I believe he'll be around a 50-point center with good possession numbers, which is a damn good player in today's league. Extremely overpaid though.

Really? Is that your expert analysis?

Where was "elite talent" Nylander in his draft+2 year?

50 point? Is that a joke? He was a 51 point guy in a shortened year when he was 20, 100% away from McDavid.
And what are going to be Nylander (Matthews' wing) stats going to be away from Matthews?

 

[IPS]

Did you really just use NHL.com as a reputable source to decide which defenseman is better?

Klefbom is superior to any leafs defenseman, and Larsson would arguably be the #1 in Toronto, and would most certainly be on the top-pair.

Klef had 38 in 82 as his best offensive season and Rielly had 36 in 82 in his best playing on a far worse offensive team (Leafs offense that year was hilariously bad).

Given that Rielly is far better defensively, Klefbom is not nearly as good as Rielly.

Throw in how much better Zaitsev is than Larsson and the Leafs have a much better defense going forward.