Post-Game Talk: **** you, Drew Stafford. Jets lose 2-1.

[Whileee]

True, but Toby angled him extremely well helping to make the play more difficult. He was also only put into that position because Buff had ventured near centre ice and meandered to the bench after the puck was turned over.

I think some of Toby's poor passes and decision making has been a direct result of poor forward play in our own end, the positioning has been utter crap and it puts a lot of pressure on the D.

Between the blue lines he has still been stellar.

One zone play is not enough.

I agree that forward play has been a bit chaotic at times, but Toby can be much better than he's been the past few games, and he needs to be.

 

[tbcwpg]

disagree. He brings potential. I'd rather watch Connor accomplish nothing than Thorburn or Burmi. I also don't believe he benefits any more from time on the Moose than on the Jets.

I don't want to watch Connor accomplish nothing with the Jets because I think it would ultimately impact him negatively in his career. I'd like to see him play with the Moose and get up to speed with the pro game than play him 6 minutes a night in the NHL. Give him half a year with the Moose, and then have him play 10-12 minutes up here.

One zone play is not enough.

I agree that forward play has been a bit chaotic at times, but Toby can be much better than he's been the past few games, and he needs to be.

He was a bit rough on Tuesday but I think he's been pretty good otherwise in the past few games. I think people expect a lot more out of Enstrom than they should? He's a solid top 4 guy on this team, or almost any team, really.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

And if Stafford is showcased for trade what can we get for him?? One used puck and left windshield wiper for Mazda Miata??

Come on, no way that is a fair trade. We'd have to throw in a 3rd or 4th rounder AND retain max salary to make that even!

 

[Do or Die]

Special teams still killing this team. That, and Maurice's fixation for clearly declining veteran players.

 

[Huffer]

Wow, that felt so typical for this season.

Give up 2 goals on the PK - Check
Terrible PP, not even a sniff - Check
3 posts and a missed breakaway - Check
Brain-dead, useless, and unnecessary stick penalty in the offensive zone with less that 3 minutes to play in a tie game by a player that shouldn't even be on the ice. - Check

Something needs to change. Coaching, Accountability, Players, etc. Not saying it has to be large, but something needs to change.

 

[Ducky10]

One zone play is not enough.

I agree that forward play has been a bit chaotic at times, but Toby can be much better than he's been the past few games, and he needs to be.

Agreed, I didn't say o zone play was enough, I said his play between the blue lines has been stellar , which means he very much dictates play with or withiut the puck on his side.

I don't see Enstrom's play suffering all that much relative to others.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Also slept on this.
Team at times looks uninterested or confused.
We look like contenders sometimes and other times pretenders and some of the wins have been ugly as well.
The players have to own the discipline part, I wonder if the captains as a group have talked about it internally?
Pretty soon we are done for playoffs.
With the extra games played and missed points we have to win imo 6 of the next ten or stick a fork in us .
I didn't expect playoffs but I didn't think we would look as bad with a decent roster

 

[randomhockeyfan]

Also slept on this.
Team at times looks uninterested or confused.
We look like contenders sometimes and other times pretenders and some of the wins have been ugly as well.
The players have to own the discipline part, I wonder if the captains as a group have talked about it internally?
Pretty soon we are done for playoffs.
With the extra games played and missed points we have to win imo 6 of the next ten or stick a fork in us .
I didn't expect playoffs but I didn't think we would look as bad with a decent roster

You guys are lucky, I woke up to this and it ruined my day immediately.

 

[Thai jet*]

Special teams still killing this team. That, and Maurice's fixation for clearly declining veteran players.

Well that has been the case for Moe's whole coaching career so get used to it.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

You guys are lucky, I woke up to this and it ruined my day immediately.

Thought about this today too. Lucky North Americans can just go to sleep after these. I had go to work after waking up at 3AM to watch the Jets suck.

 

[JustGivingEr]

I want Armia back

 

[Kaako Kappo]

I want Armia back

Funny how before Little and Perreault got back, they were supposed to be the saviors.

 

[Channelcat]

Funny how before Little and Perreault got back, they were supposed to be the saviors.

Yeah, I don't think its gonna matter who our 12 forwards are as long we are routinely giving up odd man rushes and getting crushed on special teams.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

I want Armia back

I want this too, plus Matthias. I hope that Maurice doesn't send the MLA line back into the blender. That has been one hell of a strong line.

 

[civic204]

Funny how before Little and Perreault got back, they were supposed to be the saviors.

You might remember a 5 game losing streak with those guys out. We are way better with them on this team.

However, special teams seem to suck regardless of who is on our roster.


Regarding Stafford, it's hard to fault the team for trying to get him going in the top 6 and making him a tradeable asset.

The penalty was dumb... can we get a gif? Was at the game and it looked like the ref called it from behind. Lots of embellishment.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

You might remember a 5 game losing streak with those guys out. We are way better with them on this team.

However, special teams seem to suck regardless of who is on our roster.

Yes i agree, we are a lot better with Little in the lineup. I do hope that Perreault finds his stride soon.

 

[robertocarlos]

I read the last part of the Rangers board and they said a few seconds before Stafford's high stick, Wheeler could have been called for something on the Ranger D man.

 

[tbcwpg]

Yes i agree, we are a lot better with Little in the lineup. I do hope that Perreault finds his stride soon.

For all the doom and gloom here, the team has points in 5 of 7 games. They're 4-2-1 in that span.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

For all the doom and gloom here, the team has points in 5 of 7 games. They're 4-2-1 in that span.

Yeah, it's not that bad on paper, but when you watch the team, they have looked pretty uninspired and undisciplined last few games. Frustrating to watch. Armia and Petan should fix our bottom 6.

 

[tbcwpg]

Yeah, it's not that bad on paper, but when you watch the team, they have looked pretty uninspired and undisciplined last few games. Frustrating to watch. Armia and Petan should fix our bottom 6.

At least they're getting points while they look bad. If they start to pick up their play, the extra points should follow.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I read the last part of the Rangers board and they said a few seconds before Stafford's high stick, Wheeler could have been called for something on the Ranger D man.

Wheeler could have been called for hooking half a dozen times last night. It's amazing we didn't get called more.

He's not alone either.

 

[Howard Chuck]

For all the doom and gloom here, the team has points in 5 of 7 games. They're 4-2-1 in that span.

I try not to be gloom and doom, but do feel like venting when players aren't playing up to their abilities. If there was no talent on this team, I wouldn't have high expectations, but they have shown that they can play well and be invested in the game. I love those nights, but last night was just frustrating to watch.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Perreault needs to start earning his contract apart from being injured he has done nothing this year.

Maurice needs to stop playing him at C. Period.

 

[Hobble]

Wow, that felt so typical for this season.

Give up 2 goals on the PK - Check
Terrible PP, not even a sniff - Check
3 posts and a missed breakaway - Check
Brain-dead, useless, and unnecessary stick penalty in the offensive zone with less that 3 minutes to play in a tie game by a player that shouldn't even be on the ice. - Check

Something needs to change. Coaching, Accountability, Players, etc. Not saying it has to be large, but something needs to change.

Looks like you got your hands on Maurice's "Keys to the Game" sheet?

 

[surixon]

Wheeler could have been called for hooking half a dozen times last night. It's amazing we didn't get called more.

He's not alone either.

The Rangers could have been called for picks and interference multiple times last night as well. Simply NHL officiating makes absolutely zero sense to me.