Would the Devils consider trading Schneider?

[Tundra]

You ignored his core point, which is Cory being as good as he is helps the development of our young defense, which would have insane +/- do to their learning curve with an average goalie in net.

You're telling me that our defensemen can't compartmentalize their play? They need an all star goalie to develop? Surely, you aren't going there. For example, Tyler Myers looked just fine to me this playoffs after being subjected to goals galore in Buffalo.

 

[NJDevs26]

If anything Myers disproves your point, he was terribad the last couple years in Buffalo before getting on a good team in a lesser role.

btw five of the top six defensive teams are in the second round, it's still okay to lean on defense and goaltending.

 

[217 Forever]

If anything Myers disproves your point, he was terribad the last couple years in Buffalo before getting on a good team in a lesser role.

btw five of the top six defensive teams are in the second round, it's still okay to lean on defense and goaltending.

And Dallas, Columbus, and San Jose were the only 3 teams in the top 16 offensively that didn't make the playoffs period. Maybe both offense AND defense are important?

 

[Emperoreddy]

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And Dallas, Columbus, and San Jose were the only 3 teams in the top 16 offensively that didn't make the playoffs period. Maybe both offense AND defense are important?

Doesn't mean you cut one off for the other. You add to it.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Doesn't mean you cut one off for the other. You add to it.

and i'd much rather have to add up front than in goal or on D, that's for sure.

 

[217 Forever]

and i'd much rather have to add up front than in goal or on D, that's for sure.

If it was only a matter of having to add a piece or two to the offense then I would wholeheartedly agree.

 

[VoidCreature]

Schneider is a top 6 goalie in this league. He was solely responsible for at least 10 of our wins last year, and he's locked up for six more at a very reasonable salary. I don't care where we are in our development, the only way I trade him is if I'm getting a good NHL goalie and an elite forward coming back. Tarasenko and Allan, Malkin and Fleury. I'd also consider packaging him for McDavid providing Scrivens comes back. Nothing less.

 

[BlueMagic]

Schneider is a top 6 goalie in this league. He was solely responsible for at least 10 of our wins last year, and he's locked up for six more at a very reasonable salary. I don't care where we are in our development, the only way I trade him is if I'm getting a good NHL goalie and an elite forward coming back. Tarasenko and Allan, Malkin and Fleury. I'd also consider packaging him for McDavid providing Scrivens comes back. Nothing less.

I've traveled all the way from St. Louis to tell you that you have lost your mind.

 

[217 Forever]

I've traveled all the way from St. Louis to tell you that you have lost your mind.

Not sure if you came here in response to what I posted on your board, but I'm with you...

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1886663&page=5

 

[Cheddabombs]

I've traveled all the way from St. Louis to tell you that you have lost your mind.

Kinda, it's a ridiculous proposal. But it would take a ridiculous return to entertain the thought of trading Schneider.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

why can't people comprehend the difference between fair value vs. what it would cost a team to trade a player?

the Devils have no reason to trade Schneider. obviously, Tarasenko is worth more than him all things considered. thats not the point, though.

not a hard concept to grasp.

 

[Oneiro]

Here take my arm so I can get a new leg.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

why can't people comprehend the difference between fair value vs. what it would cost a team to trade a player?

the Devils have no reason to trade Schneider. obviously, Tarasenko is worth more than him all things considered. thats not the point, though.

not a hard concept to grasp.

about as cut and dry as you can get.

blues wont' trade tarasenko and allen for cory. and we won't trade him for anything less.

don't see the need to post this on the blues board, either. we're discussing what it would take for the devils to part with cory -- something blues fans both don't care about, nor know enough about to give a fair two cents.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

also, you went to their board saying that we think tarasenko and allen is an "adequate return" for cory.

wrong. it's egregious overpayment. but that's what it would take. we're not moving schneider for an "adequate return."

 

[Devils090]

Schneider is untouchable, not even a discussion

 

[VoidCreature]

I've traveled all the way from St. Louis to tell you that you have lost your mind.

Like others have said, it's an overpayment. But we're not trading Schneider. Every GM has that kind of over-pay or nothing attitude towards their core players. Schneider is our best player, and I'm sick of him not getting enough respect from our own fans.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

another aspect of it is, we all (me included) complain about our players walking for nothing. we have a player that WANTS to be here and signed longterm. that should mean something.

 

[Emperoreddy]

another aspect of it is, we all (me included) complain about our players walking for nothing. we have a player that WANTS to be here and signed longterm. that should mean something.

Bingo. Another reason why he should be untouchable. Want to make this a toxic place for free agents to come to, or our own players to stay?

Trading away the stars we have who want to be here is a great way to do that.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

I'm half surprised some fans don't say they only watch playoff games because they're the only ones that lead to a cup.

#cupornothing

 

[217 Forever]

Bingo. Another reason why he should be untouchable. Want to make this a toxic place for free agents to come to, or our own players to stay?

Trading away the stars we have who want to be here is a great way to do that.

He does have a good attitude and wants to be here and for that I am thankful. My argument about the value of goaltending somehow seemed to end up with the thinking that I disliked Cory somehow. That isn't the case at all.

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

Did someone get a nice pat on the head and treat for relying their version of a Schneider trade to the Blues board to some how validate their opinion...oy vey...

 

[217 Forever]

Did someone get a nice pat on the head and treat for relying their version of a Schneider trade to the Blues board to some how validate their opinion...oy vey...

And given that I'm diabetic I really appreciated them making the treat sugar free...

 

[217 Forever]

What about this? Not quite Tarasenko but a very good young player. I can predict the opinions but I don't think it's in lala land. I'd probably ask for a little more though considering Merrill is in there too.

http://thehockeywriters.com/3-potential-edmonton-oilers-off-season-blockbusters/

 

[GameSeven]

What about this? Not quite Tarasenko but a very good young player. I can predict the opinions but I don't think it's in lala land. I'd probably ask for a little more though considering Merrill is in there too.

http://thehockeywriters.com/3-potential-edmonton-oilers-off-season-blockbusters/

No Friggin Way

 

[Bleedred]

Schneider is a top 6 goalie in this league. He was solely responsible for at least 10 of our wins last year, and he's locked up for six more at a very reasonable salary. I don't care where we are in our development, the only way I trade him is if I'm getting a good NHL goalie and an elite forward coming back. Tarasenko and Allan, Malkin and Fleury. I'd also consider packaging him for McDavid providing Scrivens comes back. Nothing less.

Give us McDavid and they can keep Sievens. Just sign Niemi as a UFA.

Sievens is a disgrace to the goaltending position as a starter.