Worthy of a jingoist, for lack of better term. Doublecheck with Teams Canada's 99,02 and 03 issues. How can anybody compare "the little team success" of US to the "little teams success" of Russia is also beyond me.
WJC: Dec 27 GDT - Canada 6 USA 3
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Worthy of a jingoist, for lack of better term. Doublecheck with Teams Canada's 99,02 and 03 issues. How can anybody compare "the little team success" of US to the "little teams success" of Russia is also beyond me.
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Maybe it was a poor comparison. I guess for a long time, American players were known as hard-working, blue-collar types with not a lot of flash. I think that trend is over and you're seeing a lot more natural talent. While I like to see that, it's also bringing with it egos and the collapse of the team concept.
Oilslick941611
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Well said. Last year Guillaume Latendresse was a chump, gutless, useless, unskilled, name it! Now hes one of the best rookies in the league. The same could be said about Steve Bernier.
Russians haven't won gold at a major non-junior international tournament - World Championships, Olympics or World Cup - since 1993. Every tournament they enter with as much talent as anybody. Every year it's the same result - they lose a game in the medal round. They've shown that if they can bring their talent together and play a team game - they won silver at the 1998 Olympics with a tight-knit group, despite missing several marquee players - they can do very, very well.
The Russian Hockey system has been plagued by hot dogging prima donnas and politics for years. Tarasov would roll over in his grave if he saw what has happened to Soviet/Russian hockey.
Some people on here really have no idea what they are talking about. Not saying I am an expert, but. EJ honestly played a good game. He threw his stick to try and prevent a goal? So what, trying to stop a goal, shows good effort. JJ should be getting grilled for that. If he didnt turn that puck over EJ would of "had" to throw his stick. Not a great play, but its not like he wanted to cost the game. US is in a lot of trouble and needs to rebound fast. I think EJ has been better than JJ, neither have been BAD. Lots of pressure I imagine. JJ really has some sweet moves, I think he is dynamite on the PP. He is going to be a star.
Kane is a stud, I think Frazee needs to playthe next couple games. Hopefully this will be a turn around.
Kane is a stud, I think Frazee needs to playthe next couple games. Hopefully this will be a turn around.
Rusty Shackleford
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Which means he should have only been a minus one. Staal burned Eric Johnson a few times out there and was one of if not the best defence man out there. He is not selfish and does not take stupid penalties. Staal is out there to be defense not use his offense which is Letang and Bourdon's job, so if you look at what each had to do separatly it makes sense that Staal and Parent would be minus.
But the talk was about the WJC, wasn't it? You are welcome to change the subject, but this is not a reply to the above thread of messages.
Oilslick941611
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IIHF stats show him as a -2.
Anyways, I don't want this to sound like I'm ripping Staal, because I'm not. He's played quite well, but I just think he's starting to get really over-hyped on these boards.
I did not see Staal "burn" EJ a few times. How exactly did Staal do this? I did see Staal make a number of really nice defensive plays out there, but he was also beat a handful of times as well. Over-all I think so far the Parent-Staal pairing was more dominant last year.
Bourdon and Letang do provide both offense but also defense as well. I don't think the argument that Staal and Parent are the shutdown pairing so it makes sense for them to be minus holds much water.
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great game by the canadiens. Even though i was hoping for a US win i knew they really didn't have a prayer. US goaltending in this game was pretty awful. Carey Price looks great for the canadiens. Canada has too many weapons for any team to take em down.
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It was an entertaining game that's for sure. The announcers were commenting on how great a 7 game series would be between these two. I'd like to see it
Hasn't Canada beat the USA pretty much every time? I think I heard a stat that says that the USA has only won 5 of 30something games between the two in tournament history.
Staal seems to me to be good defensively and decent offensive skills but tries to overhandle the puck and doesn't have the puck skills for it.
i think maybe 5% of posts in this forum will be objective. most of the posters are overcome by jingoism that leads them to say things like Staal is better than EJ, or other nonsense
Oilslick941611
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anyone who read this thread during the game probably knows how i picked on Zatkoff, he was horrible in the first 30 minutes of the game. his positioning was awful, played too deep in the net and made bad choices. towards the end he improved. If the US wants to advance, he needs to find his game, or they need to play thier back up.
Oilslick941611
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in the 2 head to head games they've played, Staal outclassed EJ by a far margin. Plain and simple
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