Prospect Info: With the 21st Overall Pick the Rangers Select Filip Chytil

[broadwayblue]

Not sure how we even know what Chytil's floor or ceiling are given that he's so young. If they wanted to mitigate risk, wouldn't they not draft someone that young.

I think the reference is to the 7th overall. They went safe there and took more of an upside guy in Chytil at 21.

 

[nyr2k2]

I agree with Steve on the Crawley pick. Not only trade out of Reedy, and take a LD. Ugh!!!

I didn't like the Crawley pick and still don't. That said, a handful of pundits and lots of London/CHL fans have spoken highly of it. We'll see how it works out. Maybe he's a sleeper.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I agree with Steve on the Crawley pick. Not only trade out of Reedy, and take a LD. Ugh!!!

Meaningless.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I think the reference is to the 7th overall. They went safe there and took more of an upside guy in Chytil at 21.

A couple of people said that Chytil was also low ceiling, high floor, or at least compared to the other players available.

 

[Hockeyisl1fe]

I don't agree that Chytil is a high floor lower ceiling pick though, i think his ceiling is very high. The pick was a bit off the board though but it wasn't a low ceiling pick.

Would i have liked Yamamoto/Kostin/Tolvanen there? Absolutely, but i don't hate the pick.

The only player i really feel iffy that we took Lias over is Vilardi, but i understand why given his bad skating, NYR obviously valued skating highly in this draft.

Tolvanen is overrated. Can't really understand why everyone seems to rate him so highly... his shot is elite, but at everything else he is average at best. Reminds me too much of Pulkkinen.

 

[Edge]

A couple of people said that Chytil was also low ceiling, high floor, or at least compared to the other players available.

This is another pick I am good with, especially considering the type of draft this was.

There's a lot here that reminds of Anisimov when he was drafted. He's raw but incredibly talented, and has only just begun to start to put the pieces together.

If Andersson is the safe pick, Chytil is the longer term prospect. This is a kid who is going to most likely need 3 or so years before he makes any permanent jump to the NHL.

He's slick and deceptive, and he's being forced to raise his game at a young age. This kid is all about possession, and has excellent command of the puck. He was work to do on his play in all three zones and his decision making, but I think those are more about his age and experience at this point.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

This is another pick I am good with, especially considering the type of draft this was.

There's a lot here that reminds of Anisimov when he was drafted. He's raw but incredibly talented, and has only just begun to start to put the pieces together.

If Andersson is the safe pick, Chytil is the longer term prospect. This is a kid who is going to most likely need 3 or so years before he makes any permanent jump to the NHL.

He's slick and deceptive, and he's being forced to raise his game at a young age. This kid is all about possession, and has excellent command of the puck. He was work to do on his play in all three zones and his decision making, but I think those are more about his age and experience at this point.

So we got a guy that might hit 40 points if he plays with Patrick Kane?

 

[Edge]

So we got a guy that might hit 40 points if he plays with Patrick Kane?

Artem Anisimov was in that 16-22 goal, 40-45 point range before Kane.

The guy has played 553 games at the NHL level.

If you get that from 21st overall pick, in a draft like this, that's a win.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Artem Anisimov was in that 16-22 goal, 40-45 point range before Kane.

The guy has played 553 games at the NHL level.

If you get that from 21st overall pick, in a draft like this, that's a win.

Anisimov may not be a bad pick at 21 in a draft like this but I can't get excited about getting a pick that we hope becomes a mediocre NHL player, however many games he's played.

 

[Edge]

Anisimov may not be a bad pick at 21 in a draft like this but I can't get excited about getting a pick that he hope becomes a mediocre NHL player, however many games he's played.

Well that's part of the challenge of being a draft follower, we day dream about every pick being a star.

The comparison to Anisimov is mainly based on their skills levels and where they were heading into their draft year, it's not necessarily a projection.

But, if Chytil can be a consistent 20 goal, 40 point player, that's still a solid pick.

Let's keep in mind that this kid isn't even going to be 18 for another two and a half months, and he's grown somewhere around two inches and added 10-15 pounds in the last year. There's a lot of raw, moving parts here. And yet he's still playing against men.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Anisimov may not be a bad pick at 21 in a draft like this but I can't get excited about getting a pick that we hope becomes a mediocre NHL player, however many games he's played.

Agreed. Even though it's not a certainty, you hope for a top-6 forward or a top-pair D-man in the first round. Those are the picks that need to be spot on. The Andersson pick I understand. The guys with higher upside, might have a higher bust-risk as well. Andersson isn't the flashiest player in the draft, but certainly one who has the skills. Chytil is the youngest (or one of the youngest) players picked in the draft. The first rounders we have had in the last 10 years have been spot on, aside from McIlrath.

Del Zotto: Solid top-4 D man who dipped after a few years unfortunately
Kreider: 1st line LW
Miller: Potential top-6 winger
Skjei: Definitely the tools to be a top-pair D man

That's not bad for overall mid-to-late 1st rounders

 

[Edge]

We also drafted two kids who started playing against men when they were 17.

So we also have to take into account that they weren't cleaning up against their peers.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

We also drafted two kids who started playing against men when they were 17.

So we also have to take into account that they weren't cleaning up against their peers.

Yes. And that is why I am wary of guys like Mittlestadt and Makar. Not saying they are busts, but their production needs to be judged with the opposition in mind.

 

[bobbop]

This is another pick I am good with, especially considering the type of draft this was.

There's a lot here that reminds of Anisimov when he was drafted. He's raw but incredibly talented, and has only just begun to start to put the pieces together.

If Andersson is the safe pick, Chytil is the longer term prospect. This is a kid who is going to most likely need 3 or so years before he makes any permanent jump to the NHL.

He's slick and deceptive, and he's being forced to raise his game at a young age. This kid is all about possession, and has excellent command of the puck. He was work to do on his play in all three zones and his decision making, but I think those are more about his age and experience at this point.

This board is a better place when Edge is posting!

 

[Edge]

Somethings tells me if these kids had played in North America last year, against their fellow teenagers, more fans would be comfortable with these picks.

 

[Edge]

This board is a better place when Edge is posting!

I try and get back.

It's like trying to get home to visit family.

A large, sometimes dysfunctional, but entertaining family.

 

[EEL]

Chytil was a very good pick IMHO!
The predraft rankings are a crapshoot at best-especially in the middle of the draft.
Take in consideration his age and the fact he's playing with men so early. It's going to be a few years but well worth the wait!
Lisa will probably get a look this year.

 

[EEL]

Middle of 1st round of course!

 

[New York RKY]

I didn't like it at first but how the rangers used their 2 picks in the first round made me happy.

They took a "safer" player with some potential and then they used their later pick to swing for the fences. I think cheetah's ceiling is by measureable at this point. Could really hit a home run here if the cards break right.

 

[Edge]

There are two things to really keep in mind here.

1. The Rangers drafted two kids who are already playing against men in their respective countries. Clearly that experience is something the Rangers gave at least some value and consideration to in their evaluations.

2. This is one of those drafts where lists are going to be all over the map. I think if you were to look at different teams' lists, you'd probably see more variety than usual. I've generally found that the term "weaker draft class" is code for "we have to do our research because there's no clear consensus."

Andersson projects as a versatile center that can also play wing. Some of the names mentioned are pretty good comparisons. If there's one area he lacks, it might be be that top level offense. But that also shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that he is no offensive ability or upside. It just means that you probably shouldn't project him as your top one or two offensive weapons.

Chytil is a bit more of a wildcard. He's grown significantly over the last 12 months, both in his game and physically. With that, he is much more of a work in progress --- but as mentioned several times, he is also a younger prospect. I'd be curious to see if the Rangers view him as a center or wing, because I'm not sure that path is clear yet.

 

[Fugazy]

I didn't like it at first but how the rangers used their 2 picks in the first round made me happy.

They took a "safer" player with some potential and then they used their later pick to swing for the fences. I think cheetah's ceiling is by measureable at this point. Could really hit a home run here if the cards break right.

I really liked the Chytil pick. He seems like he's got such a high ceiling and plenty of room to develop.

 

[kovazub94]

There are two things to really keep in mind here.

1. The Rangers drafted two kids who are already playing against men in their respective countries. Clearly that experience is something the Rangers gave at least some value and consideration to in their evaluations.

2. This is one of those drafts where lists are going to be all over the map. I think if you were to look at different teams' lists, you'd probably see more variety than usual. I've generally found that the term "weaker draft class" is code for "we have to do our research because there's no clear consensus."

Andersson projects as a versatile center that can also play wing. Some of the names mentioned are pretty good comparisons. If there's one area he lacks, it might be be that top level offense. But that also shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that he is no offensive ability or upside. It just means that you probably shouldn't project him as your top one or two offensive weapons.

Chytil is a bit more of a wildcard. He's grown significantly over the last 12 months, both in his game and physically. With that, he is much more of a work in progress --- but as mentioned several times, he is also a younger prospect. I'd be curious to see if the Rangers view him as a center or wing, because I'm not sure that path is clear yet.

Keep stating exactly these points and I won't hedge my opinion the fact that both prospects played in the adult leagues was the key factor for both to be chosen instead of other available options.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Keep stating exactly these points and I won't hedge my opinion the fact that both prospects played in the adult leagues was the key factor for both to be chosen instead of other available options.

It's an interesting take though. Andersson was very, very good on the 3rd line for Husk, winning the championship in Sweden. That has to count for something.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I try and get back.

It's like trying to get home to visit family.

A large, sometimes dysfunctional, but entertaining family.

The site ditching Hockey's Future other than the board makes me pine for the time when there were good editorials. When we were writing for this site (well, more you than me), the site actually allowed for opinion pieces and not some standardized norm. It was a great site for a while. The take-over of the site killed it.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So, I was playing Eastside Hockey Manager, and a few seasons in, Chytil does this. Thought it would be fun to share.