will Johnny Gaudreau sign this offseason?
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Mr Lebowski
Go Flames
He'll sign IF we sign Bill Arnold. His buddy. And we could trade for Kevin Hayes, the 3 have been the best line in hockey.
Maybe Turner Elson, 6th
For
Hayes
Then Gaudreau-3y EL 9.25 with 2.75 bonus
And Arnold 3y EL .925 bonus with .75 bonus
Maybe Turner Elson, 6th
For
Hayes
Then Gaudreau-3y EL 9.25 with 2.75 bonus
And Arnold 3y EL .925 bonus with .75 bonus
I don't have a dog in this fight other than I live in Massachusetts and have seen Gaudreau enough. With the right players around him, he's a first liner. This is a kid who would be putting up 150 point numbers if he were playing Major Juniors. Size is the issue but there have been plenty of small guys make the show. He'll rarely initiate contact but he's learned his entire playing career how to create open ice for himself and avoid contact. Assuming he is able to remain healthy, I'd guess 80 plus points a year, at least 30 plus goals. And the Arnold kid is no slouch either. Give him a year in the A, maybe a year or two on the 3rd or 4th lines and he should turn out to be a solid 2nd liner. Arnold is an absolute beast on the boards. Both could become better skaters but as someone pointed out, most players can coming out of college. Gaudreau has already made big advances in that area since his freshmen year. Calgary has kind of become a laughing stock in the NHL but you seem to have some great prospects only a year or two away.
People who don't think Gaudreau will make it because he's too small have little concept of his skill level, particularly his hockey IQ.
People who don't think Gaudreau will make it because he's too small have little concept of his skill level, particularly his hockey IQ.
King In The North
Sean Bennett
Stan Bo "reached" for Hayes in the 1st round. You're absolutely right that Chicago likes Hayes. He almost had a career ending leg injury last year and has only gotten better this year. Warrior.
That being said
laugh, would Calgary be interested in dealing for Hayes to reunite the BC line? The Hawks are so deep on the NHL squad and in the minors that they are bound to trade some prospects (most likely Pirri or Morin before Hayes). Just wondering what you think KHayes would fetch.
InfinityIggy
Zagidulin's Dad
Stan Bo "reached" for Hayes in the 1st round. You're absolutely right that Chicago likes Hayes. He almost had a career ending leg injury last year and has only gotten better this year. Warrior.
That being said
Id love to add him, problem is I dunno if we could make it worth Chicago's while..something based around one of Cammy or Stempniak?
Is Cammalleri a legitimate #2 center in the NHL still? Hawks have a huge hole there where he could fit. Problem is Chicago has minimal cap room. Calgary would have to eat some major salary or else take back a bad contract like Bickell in the process. I don't know if that is worth KHayes.
I don't see Stempniak as a fit on wing. The Hawks traded for Versteeg earlier this year and my guess is they are done on the wing unless they could get a significant upgrade somewhere.
If they get word from KHayes camp (haven't heard anything) that he doesn't want to sign I could see the Hawks moving him for a decent prospect who has a couple years of development left (maybe another NCAA guy) and a lower draft pick. Hopefully Chicago doesn't have to worry about this. There are already a lot of guys ahead of him on the pecking order who have already paid their dues in Rockford so maybe he might want an easier road to the NHL though...
Anglesmith
Setting up the play?
Cammy has filled in at centre here, but he's mainly been a winger during his NHL career. He isn't the worst centre in the world, but I wouldn't want to rely on him there if you're chasing a cup.
InfinityIggy
Zagidulin's Dad
Anglesmith
Setting up the play?
He is known to go beast mode in the playoffs though.
Yeah, but I meant rely on him as a centre. His board work is good in the defensive end, but his positioning defensively can be suspect from what I've seen when he plays centre. That could be a big difference-maker on a cup contender in the playoffs.
Johnny Hoxville
The Return of a Legend
Here's a tweet from that radio interview I heard 2 weeks ago on The Fan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sportsnet960/status/433623908193820672?screen_name=Sportsnet960
The guys name I couldn't remember is Al Moganti. He's a national hockey analyst and I believe he resides in the Philly area. Again, he personally knows the Gaudreau family.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sportsnet960/status/433623908193820672?screen_name=Sportsnet960
The guys name I couldn't remember is Al Moganti. He's a national hockey analyst and I believe he resides in the Philly area. Again, he personally knows the Gaudreau family.
InfinityIggy
Zagidulin's Dad
Johnny Hoxville
The Return of a Legend
I really believe everyone can stop worrying about whether or not he's going to sign in Calgary. Every indication he's ever said or reports coming from his family, and people that know him all point towards him wanting to be here with the Flames. Morganti believes once the Frozen 4 is completed, he will sign paper to pen with the Flames. And 100%, if he turns pro next year it will be with our organization.
InfinityIggy
Zagidulin's Dad
InfinityIggy
Zagidulin's Dad
And why Anaheim didn't trade him, we'll never know. Gaudreau gets to reap the rewards of summer development camps, as well as the spotlight with being a Flames (hockey market) prospect. If he was a Panthers prospect, nobody would care to interview him.
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Johnny Hoxville
The Return of a Legend
All the reports that I have read seem to indicate that Gaudreau wants to turn pro next season. If this is going to happen it is going to be with the Calgary Flames, he has no other choice. He has hinted at this, as well his family and friends have also pretty much said that is what his intentions are.
Of course it is possible that he returns to college next year, plays out his final year of eligibility in the NCAA, and then attempts to sign with another team. But to those people that think that situation is likely, I can only go by the information that we have heard and everything indicates otherwise and that he wants to be a Calgary Flame.
I also find it unlikely that the reason he's played three seasons thus far in the NCAA is because he wants to play his fourth. Gaudreau is so small in stature that it is more likely to think that he is played this long in the NCAA so his body has had time to develop to the point in which he is able to physically turn pro.
I'm hoping its true that he wants to stay. I believe he can make the Flames line-up in the fall given that Hudler can play RW, Cammy will be traded, and so will Stempniak. The only person he has to beat out in the top 6 will be Glencross and Baertschi, maybe Poirer and Granlund too. But Jones and Glencross are better suited for a checking role anyways.
Bounces R Way
Registered User
Have a tough time seeing him on the opening roster. This is not a prospect you want to rush, and while some guys can make the jump from NCAA to the NHL I don't see Johnny being ready in 6 months. See how he does on the Heat for a year and I think we'll get a clearer look at what type of player we really have.
Johnny Hoxville
The Return of a Legend
I have no doubts that JG thinks and sees the game at an NHL top 6 level now, his skill is probably as good if not better than anyone currently on our roster right now as well. We just have to see if his body can hold up to the rigors in this league. The good news is that he knows this as well, and he is very serious about being a professional hockey player. Hopefully he prepares his body so that happens.
InfinityIggy
Zagidulin's Dad
Because no one would give up anything of value for the chance to sign him, knowing he could just walk away from the team he was traded to as well. Teams also knew they could try and sign him without giving up any assets.
turnagainoutlaw
Registered User
I see a lot of different numbers regarding his size... Does anyone know how big he is right now?
Johnny Hoxville
The Return of a Legend
Last I heard, 5'8 and about 159lbs. He needs to get up about 170 before he can play in the NHL IMO.
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