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Why Don't Leaf Fans view the Leafs as a Contender?

LeafFever

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Tak7 said:
You need to be better than the Leafs are defensively, to win a cup.

People look at Pittsburgh last season, and pretend like it's the norm. It isn't. Pittsburgh's no defense was the anomaly, backed by outrageously good goaltending.
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Ok, what about Pittsburgh this year? Even in 2016 as well with a healthy Letang.
Leafs have a better GA than the Pens this year. Leafs have the 4th best GA in the Eastern conference.
 
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What's funny is Tampa and Boston were both technically non playoff teams last year. Extenuating circumstances for the Lightning, but Boston has been trash for years. And now they're getting a finishing piece in Nash...

Yeah, the Leafs are a contender...
 
Stephen

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Warden of the North said:
All I hear is "Tampa is better then us"

Well so what?

What if Philly or Jersey luck out a victory over Tampa in the 1st round? Rarely (if ever?) do the top seeds meet in the finals.

And as for this sudden paralyzing fear of Boston, I dont get it. We're 3-1 vs them this year, and currently have more points then them. Where is this idea coming from that they are so far and above us as to be unbeatable?

We can beat anyone in this league on a per game basis. The next step is series victories. And we dont know how we fair until we actually go toe to toe with them. Giving up because you stat watch and see morning highlights before you've even played these other teams is silly.
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We also went undefeated against Boston last year and only lost that one bad game against them when they were on their hot streak - one they've come off from since they've lost multiple times to Buffalo.
 
Gary Nylund

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Tak7 said:
You need to be better than the Leafs are defensively, to win a cup.

People look at Pittsburgh last season, and pretend like it's the norm. It isn't. Pittsburgh's no defense was the anomaly, backed by outrageously good goaltending.
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You don't think we have good goaltending?

Leafs are 2nd in the NHL for goals against over the last month.
 
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A month ago, before thye switched up their style, I would have said no way they're a contender.

They've won me over. They can contend

#FearthePolak
 
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SAMCRO44 said:
A month ago, before thye switched up their style, I would have said no way they're a contender.

They've won me over. They can contend

#FearthePolak
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Ya me too. A month ago I might have said we're a contender depending on how one defines the term but I also would have said that we still have a ways to go before we're at the level of the top contenders. From where I sit, that gap has been shrinking with almost every game we play and as of today, that gap is so small that it's almost non-existent. The addition of Dermott and putting Marner on Kadri's line have made such a huge difference that it's like a new team. And that's why I think it's not just a hot streak - we can point to reasons for the change.

Tak7 said:
The number/frequency and types of chances they give up concern me
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We're not perfect, no argument there. But then again, neither is any other team. I think some people are definitely too cocky and we could easily lose in the 1st round, yes I said easily. But then again, I see no reason we can't also win the cup this year.
 
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I’ll never blame a Leafs fan for being cynical - especially after the last decade, but the tangible evidence suggests this current Leafs team is beyond good.
 

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LeafFever said:
Ok, what about Pittsburgh this year? Even in 2016 as well with a healthy Letang.
Leafs have a better GA than the Pens this year. Leafs have the 4th best GA in the Eastern conference.
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its because of andy that we are 4th in the eastern conference in GA, definitely not the defense. our defense allows the 4th most shots in the league, then pens allow the 8th fewest
 

rent free

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Stephen said:
What's funny is Tampa and Boston were both technically non playoff teams last year. Extenuating circumstances for the Lightning, but Boston has been trash for years. And now they're getting a finishing piece in Nash...

Yeah, the Leafs are a contender...
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by this logic the leafs were non playoff team last season. also last season doesn't matter and bruins haven't been trash for years, thats the leafs who have been trash for your information, and they're getting an upgrade on spooner in nash.
 

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by this logic the leafs were non playoff team last season. also last season doesn't matter and bruins haven't been trash for years, thats the leafs who have been trash for your information, and they're getting an upgrade on spooner in nash.
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I'd say our pieces were set to grow a hell of a lot more than the B's considering the age of our cores.
 
Mats13

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Hfboards is basically always wrong about the Leafs.

So the fact that most here don't think we're a contender actually makes me more confident.
 
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LeafFever

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AnishLoomba said:
by this logic the leafs were non playoff team last season. also last season doesn't matter and bruins haven't been trash for years, thats the leafs who have been trash for your information, and they're getting an upgrade on spooner in nash.
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Nash has 1 whole point more than Spooner this season.
 
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