Is there anyone that still thinks Tavares is better than Stamkos?
I highly doubt anyone considers Tavares the better 1990 born player?
I highly doubt anyone considers Tavares the better 1990 born player?
Who's better Tavares or Stamkos?
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daethfromabove1979
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Tavares put up 58 goals and 46 assists for a total of a 104 point season in 56 games in his most likely final OHL season, for a rate of 1.86 points per game.
Stamkos put up 58 goals and 47 assists for 105 points in his final OHL season, very similar to Tavares' numbers, but Stamkos played 61 games for a 1.72 point per game rate, fairly lower.
If you are to complain that Tavares had matured and developed further as they were born in the same year and Tavares played a season after Stamkos had already moved on...well...Stamkos' final year, Tavares had 40 goals and 78 assists for a total of 118 points in 59 games, at an even 2.0 point per game rate, significantly larger than Stamkos.
Offensively, Tavares is miles better, and Stamkos' 23 goal season did not impress me for the hype he had around him. However, I cannot argue either defensively as I don't follow OHL hockey...at all...but it's not seeming like Stamkos is much better at this point.
Stamkos put up 58 goals and 47 assists for 105 points in his final OHL season, very similar to Tavares' numbers, but Stamkos played 61 games for a 1.72 point per game rate, fairly lower.
If you are to complain that Tavares had matured and developed further as they were born in the same year and Tavares played a season after Stamkos had already moved on...well...Stamkos' final year, Tavares had 40 goals and 78 assists for a total of 118 points in 59 games, at an even 2.0 point per game rate, significantly larger than Stamkos.
Offensively, Tavares is miles better, and Stamkos' 23 goal season did not impress me for the hype he had around him. However, I cannot argue either defensively as I don't follow OHL hockey...at all...but it's not seeming like Stamkos is much better at this point.
CertifiedPublicGuin
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This is obviously direly important, being Tavares hasn't been drafted and Stamkos finished his first season
It doesn't matter a wink who might be better at this point, regardless of what kind of hype was generated... Tavares deserved every ounce of hype he was receiving. Who really cares who's better right now.
This is about as irrelevant as it gets, except for the fact that there was a thread or two that once discussed the both of them.
It doesn't matter a wink who might be better at this point, regardless of what kind of hype was generated... Tavares deserved every ounce of hype he was receiving. Who really cares who's better right now.
This is about as irrelevant as it gets, except for the fact that there was a thread or two that once discussed the both of them.
Stamkos is better because he has already stepped on NHL ice and play a full season in the NHL.
At the end of the 09-10 season, we can answer this question seriously.
At the end of the 09-10 season, we can answer this question seriously.
no not even in 09-10, you'll have to wait at least 4-5 years to get an accurate idea of whos going to be better and is better. Next year is not a fair comparison, tavares will be in his rookie year while stamlos in his sophomore year.
Leperus Leprechuan
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Stamkos dominated games more at the junior level but Tavares had a better U20. Its actually pretty close IMO.
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RandV
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JawandaPuck
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1990 Birth Year Rankings
Incidently, a couple weeks ago Garl and I had a little debate regarding 1990 YoB players. Below is my ranking:
And below is his 1990 BD ranking:
Incidently, a couple weeks ago Garl and I had a little debate regarding 1990 YoB players. Below is my ranking:
And below is his 1990 BD ranking:
Letang fan 58
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Stamkos all around game is going to be better than Tavares imo. I also think Stamkos skating ability is miles better. While the poster kind of made a fool of himself by acting as if no one could possibly like Tavares better at this point, I do think Stamkos is the better player for the future. 23 goals isnt 50 but the kid was 18. Stamkos is also only 7 months older than Tavares so there isnt a huge difference. Stamkos started out slow for sure but 46 pts in his 18 yo season really is not bad considering how little ice time he was getting for most of the season.
This is at the junior level
Stamkos better skater.
Stamkos better all around player.
Equal in goal scoring- both sat in their cozy spots on the PP and rifled shots home.
Tavares- slightly better passer not by much.
Equal in shot-both are above average for 90's.
Stamkos better at battling for pucks and not being afraid.
Don't know who's the better leader.
Next year in the NHL I can see Steve with a 40 goal year. He's been one of the best at the World Championship.
You really can't compare WJC experience. Both were on the team in 08 and played sparingly. But both had an impact. JT had Hodgson and Eberle with him on the PP. Stamkos was never the main guys like JT was this past year.
When they both played 2 or 3 years in the NHL I'll make the who's better decision.
Stamkos better skater.
Stamkos better all around player.
Equal in goal scoring- both sat in their cozy spots on the PP and rifled shots home.
Tavares- slightly better passer not by much.
Equal in shot-both are above average for 90's.
Stamkos better at battling for pucks and not being afraid.
Don't know who's the better leader.
Next year in the NHL I can see Steve with a 40 goal year. He's been one of the best at the World Championship.
You really can't compare WJC experience. Both were on the team in 08 and played sparingly. But both had an impact. JT had Hodgson and Eberle with him on the PP. Stamkos was never the main guys like JT was this past year.
When they both played 2 or 3 years in the NHL I'll make the who's better decision.
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Happens every year.
The closer we get to the draft, the more the consensus #1 pick gets bashed.
Soon, we'll be hearing that next years draft class is going to be deeper than this years class along with the top five projected picks next year being better than the top 5 from this year.
As May turns to June and the Draft gets closer, the bashing will intensify until Tavares gets selected #1 and then everyone will say it was a no brainer.
Happens EVERY YEAR
Happens every year.
The closer we get to the draft, the more the consensus #1 pick gets bashed.
Soon, we'll be hearing that next years draft class is going to be deeper than this years class along with the top five projected picks next year being better than the top 5 from this year.
As May turns to June and the Draft gets closer, the bashing will intensify until Tavares gets selected #1 and then everyone will say it was a no brainer.
Happens EVERY YEAR
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Revisiting WJC08
I definitely thought that Stamkos was better than Tavares in the WJC08. You could see in that tournament Stamkos plays a more mature, responsible game. They played on the same line, and Tavares was good no doubt, but Stamkos' skating ability set him apart, and allowed him to help out much more defensively. Offensively it was a wash. Different type of offensive players, but none set themselves apart from the other
More than a year ago, TSN did a mini-poll among a considerable number of scouts, and nearly all of them considered Stamkos to be the better prospect - due primarily to the skating factor. I doubt it has changed a lot over the past year. Can't seem to find a link, sorry.
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You'll get a better look at what Stamkos is capable of in 09-10. Melrose really stunted his growth and you're seeing the real Stamkos stretching his legs in the world champs right now. He and St. Louis look stellar.
PumpkinBombX
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Maybe i'm in the severe minority here, but I think Stamkos is only going to end up as good as Sam Gagner. Which I think is still really good, but not at the Patrick Kane level that people were touting him as.
I'm almost positive they've had similar stats (I know that doesn't mean much.) throughout their careers. But when I watch them play, although they have different skill sets, their total output seems the same.
Now the question of will Tavaras peak at those two's potential too? I don't think so. When Tavaras has a bad game he can still find a way to put up points. I think he'll peak higher, but maybe that's just me.
I'm almost positive they've had similar stats (I know that doesn't mean much.) throughout their careers. But when I watch them play, although they have different skill sets, their total output seems the same.
Now the question of will Tavaras peak at those two's potential too? I don't think so. When Tavaras has a bad game he can still find a way to put up points. I think he'll peak higher, but maybe that's just me.
y2kcanucks
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Tavares is better. No question about it. People just pick apart every little bit of his game because he's been in the OHL so long. The guy could have played in the NHL this season and I'm willing to bet he'd have been more productive than Stamkos.
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