Who will win the Selke trophy?

[3rdLiner]

Not even close. Would you say I'm misrepresenting a fact/omit info in order to present a biased version of reality?

The line you're referencing has 219 minutes together (hence your conveniently arbitrary cutoff); Bergeron has 473 minutes of 5v5 ice time. In other words, that line that's being presented as his permanent line this whole season hasn't even been together for half of his TOI.

I don't want to be this pedantic, but you guys are reaching when you don't need to be.

Well no, the stat is they are the only line that has played +200 minutes together without giving up a goal. I don't know why you are so bothered about something that is factual.

Of course he probably only spends 40% of his time with his designated "line". He takes tons of defensive faceoffs for other liens, Marchand has been hurt and the PP/PK units vary .

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

I know you're just dying to take shots at the Leafs and Matthews in particular, but when a poster is as obvious as the one you're quoting you should be able to see through it

Thanks for the update bud, I'll take his and your posts less serious going forward.

 

[OVrocks]

Ovechkin

 

[maacoshark]

Ovechkin

Lmao

 

[maacoshark]

Why is that ???....Do you realize that the Bergeron line has not been scored on 5v5 ALL YEAR........

Guys....NOBODY has scored even one goal vs the Bergeron line 5 v 5 the entire season.........BERGERON will clearly win it again hands down....He is playing Chess and everyone else is playing checkers....

No one has scored 5 on 5 when Bergeron, Marchand, and Pasternak have all been on the ice.

 

[JP Nolan]

No one has scored 5 on 5 when Bergeron, Marchand, and Pasternak have all been on the ice.

Thats all i was trying to tell these guys....

 

[maacoshark]

Thats all i was trying to tell these guys....

But goals have been scored against them when 2 of them have been on the ice in the midst of a line change.

 

[LeafFever]

Most dull NHL award. Same 3 guys every year,.

 

[Bieber fever]

Patrice “ reputation “ Bergeron

 

[eviohh26]

Barkov for me.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Patrice “ reputation “ Bergeron

Bergeron earned his reputation. He deserves more Selkes.

 

[boyko10]

Bergeron earned his reputation. He deserves more Selkes.

That's a whole lotta little things done right in order to earn it. Hell of a player.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

Patrice “ reputation “ Bergeron

Only someone who bases their opinions on personal bias utters these words. No one who watches this man play regularly could or would say those words about Bergy.

 

[maacoshark]

Bergeron earned his reputation. He deserves more Selkes.

Yup. Just watch him play. He is by far the best defensive forward in the NHL right now. He is in a league of his own.

 

[NDiesel]

Barkov for me.

As a Bruins fan I'm obviously biased on this subject...however Barkov is probably my 2nd favourite player to watch behind Bergeron. So smooth, so smart. He's going to win it a few times in his career IMO.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

But goals have been scored against them when 2 of them have been on the ice in the midst of a line change.

Nobody claimed otherwise. The NHL pointed out that they were the only line to have played a minimum of 200+ minutes together 5v5 and had not been scored on. The OP repeated that stat. That’s it. No one ever tried to claim any other Bergeron lead line from start of season, when the top 9 were missing 6 starters, had not been scored on. The level of obtuseness being shown is incredible.

 

[maacoshark]

Nobody claimed otherwise. The NHL pointed out that they were the only line to have played a minimum of 200+ minutes together 5v5 and had not been scored on. The OP repeated that stat. That’s it. No one ever tried to claim any other Bergeron lead line from start of season, when the top 9 were missing 6 starters, had not been scored on. The level of obtuseness being shown is incredible.

Read how this conversation started. Someone posted that the Bergeron line hasnt been scored on 5 on 5. That isn't entirely true. The guy didnt mention that stat was with 2 specific wingers.

 

[HFpapi]

It'll be Bergeron, runner up Couturier, Kopitar to round it out..

Anyone else think Brayden Point deserves consideration?

 

[PB37]

Read how this conversation started. Someone posted that the Bergeron line hasnt been scored on 5 on 5. That isn't entirely true. The guy didnt mention that stat was with 2 specific wingers.

When Edwards or Brickley mention " The Bergeron Line " on tv, everyone knows who they're talking about.

 

[Heisenberg77]

Patrice “ reputation “ Bergeron

Don't be ridiculous. Any knowledgeable hockey fan that watches Patrice Bergeron game footage knows he's on another level above everyone else. I sense you aren't one of those people...

 

[Trendkill101]

Likely Bergeron or Kopitar I just hope Barkov finally gets his nomination.

 

[Chimpradamus]

Pretty funny a guy like Bäckström is never mentioned in threads like these. He's an elite 2-way player, but is always forgotten. I have to agree Bergeron is probably the best though.

 

[John Matthews]

so far I would say probably Anze Kopitar or Sasha Barkov

Top 3 in no order:
Kopitar
Barkov
Bergeron

others:
Toews
Not Matthews
NHL Refs
Coaches Challenge

 

[Saidin]

Bergeron is my pick, honerable mention to Adam Lowry.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Pretty funny a guy like Bäckström is never mentioned in threads like these. He's an elite 2-way player, but is always forgotten. I have to agree Bergeron is probably the best though.

He's always mentioned in this context though and the easy rebuttal is what's he doing so well (to break into the Selke finalists)? He has excellent relative corsi numbers as well as GF% and XGF numbers especially relative to team, but he's not particularly good at faceoffs, and he's getting cushy, cushy zone starts compared to the other usual suspects. I always have him in and around my top-5, but he doesn't do anything to edge into the top 3 frequently enough, especially when it's hard to argue he's being used in a defensive role (though to be fair Bergeron really isn't this year either). Edit: also being barely deployed on the PK (46 sec a game, 5 WSH forwards w/more) and massively deployed on the PP. Makes sense because he's such a weapon, but in a Selke context, that stuff matters.