GDT: Who pulled the fire alarm? FA day

[DougieSmash]

After seeing Ullmark contract and Kuemper trade, I think we signed Freddie and Raanta for good value at all.

 

[DougieSmash]

Double post, sorry

My biggest concern is that this team is soft as butter.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Here's my guess, if Gardiner is dealt in a contract-for-contract trade:

Svechnikov-Aho-Teravainen
(Saad/Tatar)-Trocheck-Necas
Niederreiter-Staal-(Cap Swap)
Martinook-Lorentz-Fast
Leivo

Slavin-DeAngelo
Skjei-Pesce
Cole-Bear
(Lajoie/Hakanpaa)

Andersen
Raanta

If not, however:

Svechnikov-Aho-Teravainen
(Saad/Tatar)-Trocheck-Necas
Niederreiter-Staal-Fast
Martinook-Lorentz-Leivo

Slavin-DeAngelo
Skjei-Pesce
Cole-Bear
Gardiner

Andersen
Raanta

 

[DougieSmash]

You should stop paging TDA on first pairing. He wasn't on first pair even in that dumpster fire in New York. Not to mention he has been off the game in last few months.

 

[DougieSmash]

 

[BrindAmours Army]

Please yes. Gardiner + for Tarasenko.

5 milion or less for Saad.

6 million or less for Svech.

Svechnikov-Aho-Teravainen
Saad-Trocheck-Necas
Niederreiter-Staal-Tarasenko
Martinook-Lorentz-Leivo

 

[bleedgreen]

I like that we put in an offer for Saad. Could be a good fit with any of the top three lines.

 

[ndp]

All your UFA"s are belong to us?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

In this ideal situation I would do

Svech-Aho-Tarasenko
Saad-Tro-Necas
Nino-Staal-Turbo
Marty-Lorentz-Fast

that would be a sick group right there

 

[CandyCanes]

I sure hope we pull off a Tarasenko trade. The upside of that move is huge. If Tarasenko can play a full season of healthy hockey we've just acquired a 25-35 goal scorer for relatively cheap.

I'm all for Saad too, but Tarasenko would be my target. Saad is a bit more of a safer play, less upside, & maybe has even more chance to backfire if it ends up being a 6x6 deal with him. Something like that could look bad in those final 2-3 seasons.

Would be incredible if we could find a way to pull both players. But that would likely require us to find a way to move Nino & Gardiner.

 

[Brock Anton]

I could see something like Gardiner and a conditional 3rd (becomes a 2nd if Tarasenko plays X amount of games) for Tarasenko with ~20% retention. Maybe another late round pick thrown in on our end.

 

[CandyCanes]

I could see something like Gardiner and a conditional 3rd (becomes a 2nd if Tarasenko plays X amount of games) for Tarasenko with ~20% retention. Maybe another late round pick thrown in on our end.

Is the price really that low for Tarasenko? No brainer for me if that's what he actually gets moved for.

 

[Wolfpuck]

 

[Brock Anton]

Is the price really that low for Tarasenko?

He's a 29-year old with 2 years left at $7.5M and who has played 34 games over the past two seasons due to shoulder problems. He's a flashy name, but his value is not that much. It's why he's an attractive gamble for a team like us who needs scoring.

 

[CandyCanes]

He's a 29-year old with 2 years left at $7.5M and who has played 34 games over the past two seasons due to shoulder problems. He's a flashy name, but his value is not that much. It's why he's an attractive gamble for a team like us who needs scoring.

I mean subtracting Gardiner's $4 mill (A guy who will be barely utilized this season) & adding Tarasenko at $6 mill (20% retained). Basically a 2 million $ risk & a mid round pick to try out Tarasenko. Still a no brainer if his physical checks out.

 

[Brock Anton]

I mean subtracting Gardiner's $4 mill (A guy who will be barely utilized this season) & adding Tarasenko at $6 mill (20% retained). Basically a 2 million $ risk & a mid round pick to try out Tarasenko. Still a no brainer if his physical checks out.

Exactly. On our end, it's worth the gamble due to our need for scoring. But for STL? I get why it's come to this, they're trying to pass him off as 2019 Tarasenko and teams are just not buying it.

If you do get him and he's not healthy? Sucks, but oh well, you tried. On to LTIR he goes and you're ultimately out a draft pick.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I wonder if Kaski will ever come back over.

 

[Borsig]

even swap for tarasenko? I need to check cap friendly....

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I like that we put in an offer for Saad. Could be a good fit with any of the top three lines.

So a Saad, Domi line might still be possible?

 

[WreckingCrew]

My only worry with Saad is at his peak he's about a 25-25 guy, but over his career he's closer to a 20-2 guy...$6M is a lot for that. He's basically Nino replacement (but can actually perform in playoffs)...I'd worry about a 4+ year deal unless it's a lower AAV

 

[DougieSmash]

Georgiev requested trade.

Please, trade for him. Full heel turn.

 

[Chrispy]

I like that we put in an offer for Saad. Could be a good fit with any of the top three lines.

Agree. But the problem I see is that Carolina is likely to be outbid again by NJ for Saad.

So this comes down to 3 scenarios:
1) Carolina gets Tarasenko, someone else gets Saad.
2) NJ gets Tarasenko, Carolina gets Saad.
3) Carolina gets neither.

They aren't outbidding the Devils for Saad or anyone other FA. They might outbid the Devils for Tarasenko based on what they are willing to give up.

 

[Lempo]

So a Saad, Domi line might still be possible?

If Dundon agrees to put enough grease to it to push it through.

 

[Bub]

He's a 29-year old with 2 years left at $7.5M and who has played 34 games over the past two seasons due to shoulder problems. He's a flashy name, but his value is not that much. It's why he's an attractive gamble for a team like us who needs scoring.

In a recent article on The Athletic, T's doctor said his shoulder is "stable" and strong enough to hold up to regular play. Now, they said nothing about passing a physical, and iirc there was a lot of "should hold up" in there, but that's at least something of a glimmer in the distance.

 

[Stickpucker]

I'd like either Saad or Tatar on the Hurricanes. It would tamp down a lot of my fears post-Dougie mega-contract that the Canes weren't going to spend.

My fear is ol' fishsticks has too much dingleberry in him.

translation. does tatar = dzingle?