Where's the Eklund thread?

[littleD]

We decided to stay out of it and leave it to the members to decide as suggestions were made regarding violations of privacy (i.e. IP info). All information presented was strictly from the public domain, but we don't want even the hint that fair play wasn't involved. The audio link made by one of our members is still up.
http://www.cysjhangar.ca/ranold/Eklund-Greenstein2.mp3

FFS, you did not decide to stay out of it. A moderator started the original thread. How is that staying out of it?

Why don't the mods just make a seperate Eklund board.

 

[Montrealer]

Don't really care about 'ek' or anything about his blog, lackthereof.

However, never heard of insidehockey.com before. Looking at the bios, looks to me that it's a bunch of musicians and former interns (not employees of those companies) that are trying to be an online hockey publication.

And I have never heard of the New York Sun paper.

I just realized that Sam Roberts is a columnist at Inside Hockey.

Sam Roberts?

Kick-ass music? Check.
Hockey Insider? Ummmmm....no.

 

[Montrealer]

FFS, you did not decide to stay out of it. A moderator started the original thread. How is that staying out of it?

Why don't the mods just make a seperate Eklund board.

Why don't you just go to a seperate board altogether, if you don't like the way this one is run?

FFS, it's like people think they own the bulletin boards just because they're able to post on them.

 

[colonel_korn]

Whoever Eklund is, I suspect that threads like this give him an unimaginably large boner.

 

[MarkZackKarl]

After reading some Greenstein articles, he didn't sound too much like Ek. So I decided to run a test. Here are some readability statistics (courtesy of MS Word) from some articles at insidehockey.com:

[pre] #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Sentences/Paragraph 3.1 2.8 3.1 3.0 2.7 7.3
Words/Sentence 27.6 22.2 25.5 26.3 24.0 15.0
Characters/Word 4.9 4.7 4.7 5.0 4.9 4.2
Flech Reading Ease 42.7 49.5 45.5 37.8 42.5 76.9
Flech-Kincaid Grade Level 12.0 12.0 12.0 12.0 12.0 6.2[/pre]

Articles #1-#5 are Kevin Greenstein's most recent ones. Article #6 is the one article written by 'Eklund.' If Eklund is Greenstein, he's significantly altering his writing style. Of course, that might just be smart marketing. If Eklund articles were written at a 12th grade level, no one able to read them would believe them.

Haha... nicely done.

 

[ResidentAlien*]

Best thread ever

 

[ScottyBowman]

Those 2 guys on the mp3 sound alike. If this is true and he is giving himself a job and interview himself it would be the funniest thing ever.

 

[GSC2k2*]

Those 2 guys on the mp3 sound alike. If this is true and he is giving himself a job and interview himself it would be the funniest thing ever.

If threads like this can bring two disparate posters like Scotty and myself into agreement on something, then it must be the thread of the year.

 

[Lard_Lad]

If this is true and he is giving himself a job and interview himself it would be the funniest thing ever.

Well, maybe second-funniest, after giving himself the nickname "The Hockey Scientist."

(But I'm still not totally convinced it's Greenstein. There's a few things that don't fit, like all the Philadelphia references - Greenstein's apparently from Brooklyn and seems to have written mainly about NY-area teams. Could be that 'Eklund' is a group effort, and Greenstein's part of the group, though.)

 

[Hedberg]

Where's that picture that says: This Thread ROCKS!

 

[Matt Foley*]

Here's a site that had a good satire of Eklund going last winter:

http://hockeyroomers.blogspot.com/

Some quotes I found particularly funny:

"Regardless of what you think of me, I started this blog as a way of getting the voices in my head heard"

"Stay tuned for more reumers as I pretend to fly to New York later today."

"I'm going to Taco Bell in West Banana, Nevada, so don't slit your wrists if you don't read a post from me in the next five minutes. I know I'm your lifeline but you'll be ok. "

 

[Dubi]

Kevin is not Eklund

I don't have any concrete proof, but it just doesn't add up:

Kevin lives in Brooklyn, not Philly, and is not a Flyers fan -- Eklund has been posting on Flyer fan sites for years.

I've spoken to Kevin about lockout issues, even after posting my dissection of Eklund, and he gave no indication of any interest in Eklund or what I wrote about him, nor any indication of knowing anything special that Eklund claims to know.

As was pointed out in that great analysis of Kevin's writing vs. Ek's, Kevin can write and Ek can't -- that's more of a difference than just editing. Moreover, Kevin's POV is too different from Ek's for the two to be one and the same.

Eklund is a journalist wannabe but as I pointed out in my dissection he has no journalistic instincts or ethics whatsover. Kevin writes for the Sun (it's not the Post, Times, News, or Newsday, but it's a New York daily nonetheless) and does demonstrate at least some basic level of journalism, if not more.

Larry Brooks semi-outed Eklund a couple of weeks ago -- he printed his initials: DKK. I don't have a clue who that is, but it's not Kevin.

If that voice recording is real, then I would sooner believe that Kevin (who may have befriended Eklund along the way) may have at some point ghost-interviewed for Eklund -- my own recollection of hearing Eklund on the radio is that he sounded different than in the sample posted here, more whiny than Kevin (if that is indeed Kevin).

Ultimately, it doesn't matter who Eklund is -- he can't possibly be "somebody" or else he wouldn't be doing what he is doing with the weblog. He's a wannabe nobody.

 

[KL*]

OK, I just visited this Ecklund's blog for the first time. For those of you who read the thread, I bashed the people who cared so much about this guy that they would "out" him on another board. I still think that they care too much, but here's my take on him.

First of all, anyone who believes that Ecklund really has contacts and pays for his site are...well...I don't want to be banned. But think about it...if the guy really were who he says he is, and if he had the contacts that he says he does, and if he really wanted to be seen as something more than just a rumor-mongering fanboy with a blog, then wouldn't his site look better? I mean seriously, look at it. It's the default template from blogspot.com. That thing literally took 3 minutes to set up, if that.

Second, he mentions that one of the perks for signing up for his rumors for $10 a month is "private chats." Uh, ok. Who in their right mind wants a private chat with this guy? Seriously. It's like he took it directly from a porn website, only instead of talking dirty, he will tell you secret rumors that he doesn't blab on his site.

Third, ignoring for a moment the sheer ridiculousness of the concept of some fat hockey tool chatting with you for money, why on Earth would you pay for that? You know good and well that if it's a big rumor, he's going to post it on his main site. He's not going to hide anything major and tell you in a private chat. He's trying to build a reputation for himself by breaking big rumors, even if he has to make them up and hope to get lucky.

I visited his site for five minutes and it's obvious that he's full of crap. Any of you who have been to his site know it too. So let's drop it, ok? He's a tool, he's a fraud, all that. We don't need to know who he is.

 

[Lard_Lad]

I visited his site for five minutes and it's obvious that he's full of crap. Any of you who have been to his site know it too. So let's drop it, ok? He's a tool, he's a fraud, all that. We don't need to know who he is.

That's an odd thing to say. If he's misrepresented himself, wouldn't it be a good idea to know his real identity? If he really is Kevin Greenstein, knowing that is pretty relevant to evaluating anything Greenstein says in the future.

Interesting that that the last couple of posts, both from people who've not posted much in the past, are trying to suggest that inquiring further into Eklund's identity is a waste of time because he's not worth bothering with. That's a new theme. Curiouser and curiouser.

 

[Epsilon]

Eklund has jumped the shark.

 

[Beauty eh?]

Larry Brooks semi-outed Eklund a couple of weeks ago -- he printed his initials: DKK. I don't have a clue who that is, but it's not Kevin.

Don Koharski?!?! Son of a.....

 

[Randall Graves*]

ahh I can see how it started...

when ek first begins his blog, with nobody knowing who the hell he is, he starts rumors. He gets people to spam hockey websites with his 'rumors', pretty soon hundreds of people check out his blog, where it eventually gets to the NHL and it's players...then the actual sources start feeding him some info. He claims he has over 100 players ready to be interviewed.

there is someone, or something behind this. how does one random persons blog explode?

eklund has claimed that he has written and covered hockey for sometime...my question is, if he has why won't he come forward?

 

[Spungo*]

Don Koharski?!?! Son of a.....

Nope, Don Knotts. A.K.A. Barny Fife/Mr.Furley.

 

[KL*]

That's an odd thing to say. If he's misrepresented himself, wouldn't it be a good idea to know his real identity? If he really is Kevin Greenstein, knowing that is pretty relevant to evaluating anything Greenstein says in the future.

Why? What difference does it make?

If this Kevin person wants to write good, solid stuff under one name and Pejorative Slured stuff under another, so what? And if they are separate, so what?

Why do you take this so seriously? Why do you feel the need to get a group of fans together and "evaluate" hockey writers? Doesn't that seem a little pathetic to you?

Interesting that that the last couple of posts, both from people who've not posted much in the past, are trying to suggest that inquiring further into Eklund's identity is a waste of time because he's not worth bothering with. That's a new theme. Curiouser and curiouser.

*rolls eyes*

Grow up.

 

[Lard_Lad]

If this Kevin person wants to write good, solid stuff under one name and Pejorative Slured stuff under another, so what?

So a pseudonym is all you need to completely shield your reputation and credibility if you want to publish unsubstantiated nonsense? Hey, Bob McKenzie, if you're reading this, I've got a business proposition for you: we'll start a pay-per-view blog where you, using a fake name (how's "Doug McKenzie" grab you?), post whatever rumors people pass on to you. Doesn't have to be actual hockey sources; if the guy down at the general store near your cottage has a theory on why the Leafs won't buy out Owen Nolan, hey, that's fair game. Hell, if you can make up some good stuff on your own, go for it. And don't worry about flushing the credibility you've been building over the last 30 years down the drain if someone finds us out; according to our pal Mike here, no one should care.

Why do you take this so seriously? Why do you feel the need to get a group of fans together and "evaluate" hockey writers? Doesn't that seem a little pathetic to you?

"Get a group of fans together?" I'm just one guy commenting on a message board. I don't recall conducting a membership drive. Should I, do you think? How's this sound: for only $10, you get access to my *really* good conspiracy theories about Eklund. I'll even hold private chats, where I reveal the secret connections between Eklund, the Trilateral Commission, and the Knights Templar. Join now!

 

[futurcorerock]

That's an odd thing to say. If he's misrepresented himself, wouldn't it be a good idea to know his real identity? If he really is Kevin Greenstein, knowing that is pretty relevant to evaluating anything Greenstein says in the future.

Interesting that that the last couple of posts, both from people who've not posted much in the past, are trying to suggest that inquiring further into Eklund's identity is a waste of time because he's not worth bothering with. That's a new theme. Curiouser and curiouser.

Quantity of posts does not always guarantee quality.

You're a repeat offender my friend,

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Well it should be Flesch-Kincaid, now that I see I misspelled it. It's actually supposed to represent the grade level would allow a reader to comprehend it. But I guess a 6th grader can write to a 6th grader's reading level.

how did you get the flesch-kincaid ratings?

 

[Garry Valk]

Lord's praise for the Ek.

 

[salzy]

Eklund has jumped the shark.

For sure! Eklund is SOOOO last February. It's all about Illka now!

 

[Steve L*]

For sure! Eklund is SOOOO last February. It's all about Illka now!

and Neidermayer..... and D*mi.

I may have to slit my wrists if that happens.