Where in the world is kyle turris?

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

I was surprised as Turris is usually pretty money come playoff time. I wasn’t a big fan of the trade from a Sens fan perspective when it happened but Duchene has convinced me he’s a top quality player.

I think Turris will rebound next playoffs for Nashville though, the guy has proven he can get it done so I don’t see why he won’t step it up next season for them.

 

[JustaFinnishGuy]

What did he do in Finland that showed bad character?

Complained about the ABC chain's food which the players ate after away games.
That's literally it.

Don't know where Kärpät players go to eat nowadays, but in 2012 those meals werent exactly gourmet.

 

[Chimpradamus]

He's in Copenhagen, Denmark I think. Or did someone already pull that joke?

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

More like Kyle Tourist because he is just a spectator looking on now

 

[BonkTastic]

More like Kyle Tourist because he is just a spectator looking on now

For the record: this is a pro-tier pun. Well done.

 

[BonkTastic]

I was expecting the Preds, after being eliminated, to announce that Turris had been dealing with an injury, which would explain his complete disappearing act in Nashville since January.

Seeing that he is not only not injured, but healthy enough to immediately head to Europe to play for Team Canada in the World Championships, really makes me wonder if we did the right thing by walking away from his contract expectations here in Ottawa.

Yeah, we still overpaid for Duchene, but seeing Turris's 4 month long cold streak certainly makes me reconsider the value in that trade.

 

[Soundgarden]

Except Seth Jones is now a 1D, and those types are never traded

At no point in time has Sam Girard ever had anywhere close to the value Seth Jones had/has though.

 

[yababy]

At no point in time has Sam Girard ever had anywhere close to the value Seth Jones had/has though.

What I was pointing out was that, given where each player is NOW, the Preds don't move Jones for Johansen or Girard for Turris.
Jones is worth a Draisaitl now

 

[Chimpradamus]

I was expecting the Preds, after being eliminated, to announce that Turris had been dealing with an injury, which would explain his complete disappearing act in Nashville since January.

Seeing that he is not only not injured, but healthy enough to immediately head to Europe to play for Team Canada in the World Championships, really makes me wonder if we did the right thing by walking away from his contract expectations here in Ottawa.

Yeah, we still overpaid for Duchene, but seeing Turris's 4 month long cold streak certainly makes me reconsider the value in that trade.

It can also be a chemistry and team thing. Maybe Turris would continue to play really well for Ottawa, but for some reason he sucks in Nashville. Maybe he doesn't like it there, maybe their strategy doesn't match his qualities so well, etc.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

He's in Copenhagen, Denmark I think. Or did someone already pull that joke?

Too bad the results of his playoffs would have been the same, If he played in playoffs or stayed in Copenhagen. No impact whatsoever.

 

[Soundgarden]

What I was pointing out was that, given where each player is NOW, the Preds don't move Jones for Johansen or Girard for Turris.
Jones is worth a Draisaitl now

In hindsight, yes, but at the time we were shopping him the only names out there were RNH and Johansen. We chose correctly.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Yeah, they definitely should have just left that gaping hole at 2C to hold onto a guy that wasn’t going to get anything more than 3rd pairing minutes for the foreseeable future.

Yeah, they definitely should've traded the guy who was going to be their top 4 D for the next 7+ years for a guy who can barely fill in at 2 C for one or two years.

I don't believe that argument but I'm using it to point out why yours seems silly and to point out that you're ignoring some crucial things

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Yeah, they definitely should've traded the guy who was going to be their top 4 D for the next 7+ years for a guy who can barely fill in at 2 C for one or two years.

I don't believe that argument but I'm using it to point out why yours seems silly and to point out that you're ignoring some crucial things

Well, his argument made a lot more sense. Nashville dealt from a position of strength, for a position of need. A top six centre for them is going to be more valuable than a potential top for D, because they're already stacked on D.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Well, his argument made a lot more sense. Nashville dealt from a position of strength, for a position of need. A top six centre for them is going to be more valuable than a potential top for D, because they're already stacked on D.

Just seemed dishonest to pretend not to understand at all why someone might feel otherwise and to frame it like there was one and only one thing someone should consider

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Just seemed dishonest to pretend not to understand at all why someone might feel otherwise and to frame it like there was one and only one thing someone should consider

Yeah, I guess. Kyle Turris wasn't the only option.

But, I think long-term, the Predators will probably be happy with Turris. Give him a full season in Nashville and we'll talk.

 

[seafoam]

He’s in Herning, Denmark.

 

[ryerockarola]

He’s in Herning, Denmark.

He is but his equipment isn't. Turris borrowed skates from Barzal and used one of Ekblad's sticks in Canada's game against Germany today.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

What I was pointing out was that, given where each player is NOW, the Preds don't move Jones for Johansen or Girard for Turris.
Jones is worth a Draisaitl now

I think Logan Couture is better and worth more than Johansen, and I would easily trade Couture and a 1st round pick for Seth Jones.

 

[Uncle Rotter]

He’s in Herning, Denmark.

He's in Copenhagen now. And scored a goal against Russia in the QF.

 

[ponder]

The Sens and Preds both lost this trade, but Colorado CLEANED UP.

Duchene

for

2019 Sens 1st (unprotected, could be VERY high)
Girard
Bowers (2017 1st who’s progressing well)
Kamenev (worth at least a 2nd, maybe a 1st)
2nd
3rd
Hammond

That’s unbelievable, a ridiculously good return. That 2019 Sens 1st has similar value to Duchene, as does Girard. To also get two good prospects in Bowers and Kamenev, and a 2nd and a 3rd, just an unreal return.

 

[Adrianopolous]

The Sens and Preds both lost this trade, but Colorado CLEANED UP.

Duchene

for

2019 Sens 1st (unprotected, could be VERY high)
Girard
Bowers (2017 1st who’s progressing well)
Kamenev (worth at least a 2nd, maybe a 1st)
2nd
3rd
Hammond

That’s unbelievable, a ridiculously good return. That 2019 Sens 1st has similar value to Duchene, as does Girard. To also get two good prospects in Bowers and Kamenev, and a 2nd and a 3rd, just an unreal return.

I would be very surprised if the 2019 first is as good as Duchene.

 

[olli]

Nashville should trade him and go after Tavares.

 

[ponder]

I would be very surprised if the 2019 first is as good as Duchene.

Duchene is 27, and Ottawa acquired him with under 2 years left on his $6 mil AAV deal before he becomes a UFA. There's a decent chance they get just 1.8 seasons of Duchene, and even if they do resign him, it'll be an always-risky UFA deal - probably for tonnes of money and term, in his 30s for almost all of the deal, these contracts are always major risks and often work out poorly.

The 2019 1st could easily be a top 5 pick, and top 5 picks turn out as good or better than Duchene decently often. But even if he's significantly worse, he'll be an 18 year on a dirt cheap rookie deal for a few years, then a still-reasonable RFA deal for many years after that. He doesn't have to be as good as Duchene to be equally (or much more) valuable, because you get him for ages at a good-to-great price, while with Duchene it's either just 1.8 years, or longer, but on a very risky, very expensive UFA deal.

I think Ottawa made this deal thinking they'd be a playoff team, and the pick would be a mid/late 1st. Given Ottawa's very poor performance this year, and the likelihood of the pick being very high, I think they'd at this point deal Duchene straight-up for the pick back, while Colorado wouldn't.

 

[Soundgarden]

The Sens and Preds both lost this trade, but Colorado CLEANED UP.

Again, Nashville did not lose the trade after one year because Turris had a bad playoffs. We got a no.2 center for a defenseman who would have never been in our top 4 and a center prospect that would not be in our line up.

 

[triggrman]

In what world is Kamenev worth a 2nd or a

Kamenev (worth at least a 2nd, maybe a 1st)
.

lol, in what world. The guy is almost 22 and has a total of 5 games and 0 points. He might be worth a 3rd