Rumor: Vinny Lecavalier bought out... UPD: signed in Philadelphia

SJeasy

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Burns has never QB'd at a rate that matches boyle now or previously. Burns never QB'd the Minn PP. It was always MAREK ZIDLICKY. And anytime he was out and it was just Burns running it their PP was atrocious...

http://www.hockeywilderness.com/2011/4/25/2131160/minnesota-wild-season-grades-marek-zidlicky

"Dan- GRADE: B Logs the most PP time/game out of anyone on the team, is the key defender on the powerplay and logs tons of minutes. It shows, because when Zidlicky when down from 1/2/11 to 2/18/11, the team scored only 8 PP goals in 54 Power Plays (14.8%)."
Argue it with GF60 5on4. No narratives.
 

WantonAbandon

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Forward depth and 5v5 scoring have been serious problems for this team for a while now. Vinny could potentially help with that, but I'm not entirely confident that the PP could maintain its effectiveness without Boyle next season, which IMO is the only way this gets done.

You don't acquire that type of player to address depth issues. Players like Torres are the real target
 

WantonAbandon

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Argue it with GF60 5on4. No narratives.

I see Burns as more of a trigger man now. He doesn't seem to handle the heavier forechecks or the swarm nearly as well as Boyle does. Burns is more of a turnover machine than Boyle. If Burns can't skate it out his go to move seems to be turnover. He maybe able to adjust, but I wouldn't count on it
 

Pinkfloyd

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I see Burns as more of a trigger man now. He doesn't seem to handle the heavier forechecks or the swarm nearly as well as Boyle does. Burns is more of a turnover machine than Boyle. If Burns can't skate it out his go to move seems to be turnover. He maybe able to adjust, but I wouldn't count on it

The discussion is about the power play. There is no real swarming fore-check from a short-handed team so please stop this nonsense you spew about his go-to move is a turnover like it's something he tries to do. It's a ridiculous bias you have and you bring it up every time Burns comes up.
 

WantonAbandon

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The discussion is about the power play. There is no real swarming fore-check from a short-handed team so please stop this nonsense you spew about his go-to move is a turnover like it's something he tries to do. It's a ridiculous bias you have and you bring it up every time Burns comes up.

A PP specialist eh. Seems pretty limited. And yes teams do swarm on the PK now
 

Pinkfloyd

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A PP specialist eh. Seems pretty limited. And yes teams do swarm on the PK now

The discussion is about a specific situation. That doesn't pigeonhole anyone into a specialist. Try to catch up here. They swarm at the points in the defensive zone. They don't swarm on the fore-check. Try again.
 

WantonAbandon

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The discussion is about a specific situation. That doesn't pigeonhole anyone into a specialist. Try to catch up here. They swarm at the points in the defensive zone. They don't swarm on the fore-check. Try again.

That is why I talked about them as two separate things. Notice my use of the word or. He doesn't handle either very well.
 

WantonAbandon

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Burns is very good at making space for himself up front and he is a huge help to the Sharks regarding entires at forward. Burns is why the Sharks were able to spread out their offense last season. At least until Torres and Havlat got injured
 

Pinkfloyd

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That is why I talked about them as two separate things. Notice my use of the word or. He doesn't handle either very well.

And that's where your problem lies. This assumption that he doesn't handle swarms at the point very well. There is nothing that you have that legitimately points to that being accurate.
 

WantonAbandon

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And that's where your problem lies. This assumption that he doesn't handle swarms at the point very well. There is nothing that you have that legitimately points to that being accurate.

I'm pointing at my eyeballs right at this moment :laugh:
 

The Ice Hockey Dude

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Mattb124

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On the draft ticker, they listed 10+ teams he is speaking to and the Sharks were not one (liked like East or Canadian teams).
 

Barrie22

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I can't see how we afford this guy without dumping Havlat but ok.... Ill take it.

Because no team is going to sign him for any more then what his buyout is and his current contract is added together to equal his previous bought out contract.

Same goes for the players in the nhlpa. Buy outs still count against the 50-50 split.
 

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Argue it with GF60 5on4. No narratives.

No argument needed. It's plainly obvious burns was the trigger not the qb when he was in Minn. so the point stands that burns has never qb'd a pp at the level Boyle has... Not now or previously. It may be possible in the future but your assertion that he has contradicts the facts.
 

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