Value Of Mcdonagh

[Liferleafer]

The Leafs still have all their picks. Use them to draft more prospects. Adding McDonagh will have an immediate impact on the Leafs

With all of the contracts we need to re-sign, there won't be room to sign McD in 1.5 years....and Zeke included the 1st in the proposal i responded to.

 

[Liferleafer]

Those forwards are still great, actually.

But if you want to replace Goat with some other vet 4th line C, go ahead.

Lievo on the 2nd line? Unproven Grundstrom and Johnson? Ya...no chance that goes bad. And where is Marleau's 6.5 mil in cap?

 

[Canovin]

With all of the contracts we need to re-sign, there won't be room to sign McD in 1.5 years....and Zeke included the 1st in the proposal i responded to.

Build the team around Matthews, Marner, Nylander and McDonagh. Everyone else is worth moving to make the cap work

 

[Liferleafer]

Build the team around Matthews, Marner, Nylander and McDonagh. Everyone else is worth moving to make the cap work

I would much prefer to stay the course. We can keep the 3 kids...have Kapanen and possibly Liljgren play next season...and draft in the 1st round. McD will be 30 when he would need to be re-signed...that's not a good "build around age" to throw a big contract at.

 

[zeke]

Lievo on the 2nd line? Unproven Grundstrom and Johnson? Ya...no chance that goes bad. And where is Marleau's 6.5 mil in cap?

yes, we will have to make some sacrifices and take some chances somewhere on the roster. and the best place to take that chance is on the wing. and we have lots of good looking wing prospects beyond kappy, and will likely draft even more in the next couple years.

If all of them fail, then picking up cheapo vet wing offense is one of the easiest things to do on the cheap in the offseason.

 

[Liferleafer]

yes, we will have to make some sacrifices and take some chances somewhere on the roster. and the best place to take that chance is on the wing. and we have lots of good looking wing prospects beyond kappy, and will likely draft even more in the next couple years.

No, no we won't. We can keep Kap....keep Lil....keep our picks....keep the big 3.....keep to the plan. No need to pay huge for a D at the cost of sacrificing the future.

 

[Canovin]

I would much prefer to stay the course. We can keep the 3 kids...have Kapanen and possibly Liljgren play next season...and draft in the 1st round. McD will be 30 when he would need to be re-signed...that's not a good "build around age" to throw a big contract at.

Stay the course if you want the leafs to go without a #1 or #2 D for the next 5 years. You have to pay to get.

 

[zeke]

Any forward core led by Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Kadri, is gonna be great.

And we have lots of good young winger prospects coming up.

Using the fear of having to rely on a couple of winger prospects around them to avoid getting a player as good as McDonagh strikes me as a little off.

 

[Savant]

Any forward core led by Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Kadri, is gonna be great.

And we have lots of good young winger prospects coming up.

Using the fear of having to rely on a couple of winger prospects around them to avoid getting a player as good as McDonagh strikes me as a little off.

I mean it’s basically the Chicago and Pittsburgh model

 

[Liferleafer]

Stay the course if you want the leafs to go without a #1 or #2 D for the next 5 years. You have to pay to get.

The Leafs can/will upgrade the D without a homerun swing. There is no need to empty the cupboard for 1.5 years of McD.

 

[Liferleafer]

Any forward core led by Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Kadri, is gonna be great.

And we have lots of good young winger prospects coming up.

Using the fear of having to rely on a couple of winger prospects around them to avoid getting a player as good as McDonagh strikes me as a little off.

The fear i have is trading 3 very good young pieces for a quick fix....been down that road, didn't end well.

 

[zeke]

The fear i have is trading 3 very good young pieces for a quick fix....been down that road, didn't end well.

I dunno, have we really ever been down the road where we're already one of the best teams in hockey, and then traded futures for a 28yr old stud #1 dman?

 

[Canovin]

The Leafs can/will upgrade the D without a homerun swing. There is no need to empty the cupboard for 1.5 years of McD.

That's not exactly emptying the cupboard. lol You still have future picks, prospects and signings.

 

[Pi]

I dunno, have we really ever been down the road where we're already one of the best teams in hockey, and then traded futures for a 28yr old stud #1 dman?

Agreed. As long as the Leafs have Matthews, Nylander, Marner and Kadri, the offence will be fine. It would really sting to lose guys like Liljegren, Kapanen and a 1st but I'd do it for McDonagh.

Acquiring McDonagh is almost like the time we got Matthews. The Leafs D isn't bad but it seems like everyone is playing close to a level above what they are capable of.

Matthews put everyone in their right place. McDonagh would put every D the Leafs have in their right place and making them much better.

If the Leafs had to spend assets, I'd go big with McDonagh over small upgrades with guys like Tanev, Schmidt etc.

 

[ToneDog]

The Leafs can/will upgrade the D without a homerun swing. There is no need to empty the cupboard for 1.5 years of McD.

McDonagh could be the missing piece for the Leafs. Not sure what his contract situation is but I would be very interested.

 

[Pi]

McDonagh could be the missing piece for the Leafs. Not sure what his contract situation is but I would be very interested.

He's UFA in 1.5 years. Would probably demand 7.5-8.5M over 7-8 years.

 

[Liferleafer]

I dunno, have we really ever been down the road where we're already one of the best teams in hockey, and then traded futures for a 28yr old stud #1 dman?

You're right...the Kessel trade never happened. Way to narrow the goal posts...i said trade high futures for quick fix....which is what this is.

 

[Liferleafer]

That's not exactly emptying the cupboard. lol You still have future picks, prospects and signings.

Our top forward prospect...our top D prospect and a 1st? That's quite a bit....no?

 

[ToneDog]

I dunno, have we really ever been down the road where we're already one of the best teams in hockey, and then traded futures for a 28yr old stud #1 dman?

The year we traded for Leetch but I think this Leaf team is closer than that Leaf team was.

 

[Liferleafer]

McDonagh could be the missing piece for the Leafs. Not sure what his contract situation is but I would be very interested.

It ends in 2019....right when all of the kids will be getting paid.

 

[Pi]

You're right...the Kessel trade never happened. Way to narrow the goal posts...i said trade high futures for quick fix....which is what this is.

How is acquiring a #1D in his prime a quick fix, especially if we can sign him? That's not a quick fix, that is a permanent fix.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

already a thread

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Taking on Staal lowers the McD price, I’ll throw in an animal balloon as well.

 

[ToneDog]

Our top forward prospect...our top D prospect and a 1st? That's quite a bit....no?

Yes but that is the cost of acquiring a #1 dman and a legitimate shot. I would try to get him a little cheaper. Say Kappy + 1st + Dermott.

 

[ToneDog]

It ends in 2019....right when all of the kids will be getting paid.

I think Lou can fit him in next year as a bunch of money comes off the books. They can trade Gardiner before the draft if need be.