McKenzie: Trade talks really heating up over last week

[My3Sons]

Vatanen for Palmieri.

Devils only have two solid RW. You can have your pick of LW guys below Hall like Henrique or Johansson. Devils can add a John Moore to a deal to lessen the blow of any offense lost from the blue line.

 

[MayDayMayDay]

I get the feeling an Evander Kane move is coming in the not too distant future. His value is pretty high right now, and Botts strikes me as a GM who'll make the move the second he gets a deal he likes (not take the chance Kane gets hurt bw now and the TDL).

 

[WTFMAN99]

Look at what NJ traded for Mueller. Probably a similar return.

Maybe ballpark.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Leafs fans rubbing their hands in anticipation....get yer Bozak here!! Get yer JVR here!!!!

Not this one, I think this team is a contender and don't want to see guys sold for futures

 

[Gerin]

I have no clue why none of the teams in need of a center (including my NYR) didnt give Shipachyov a chance.

His contract

It wasn't his contract and some teams did, Anaheim offered something like a 5th draft pick. Ship didn't want to get traded. He said so himself and GMGM in an interview that he just wanted to leave the NHL and return to Russia

 

[Viqsi]

Look at what NJ traded for Mueller. Probably a similar return.

Oh, come on. For all the chatter about Murray's injury issues, he still has on average more games in any given NHL season than Mueller has in his entire career, and they were drafted one year apart (Murray in 2012, Mueller in 2013). That you're even drawing the comparison suggests you haven't the slightest clue what Murray has done and that you're going strictly by mistaken reputation.

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Maybe ballpark.

Not really, no.

 

[Arthuros]

What's up with Zacha? Slow development curve? Forced into more defensive duties?

 

[WTFMAN99]

Oh, come on. For all the chatter about Murray's injury issues, he still has on average more games in any given NHL season than Mueller has in his entire career, and they were drafted one year apart (Murray in 2012, Mueller in 2013). That you're even drawing the comparison suggests you haven't the slightest clue what Murray has done and that you're going strictly by mistaken reputation.

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Not really, no.

What more could he be worth though? You don't want to overpay as you've highlighted there is some injury concerns, the offensive ceiling is probably limited although I have liked his first pass.

I did touch on it a bit in my new blog post...

HawkeyIntangibles

Literally created the 1 blog and 1st post in 1 hour and then went to work...just finished up post #2

 

[My3Sons]

Oh, come on. For all the chatter about Murray's injury issues, he still has on average more games in any given NHL season than Mueller has in his entire career, and they were drafted one year apart (Murray in 2012, Mueller in 2013). That you're even drawing the comparison suggests you haven't the slightest clue what Murray has done and that you're going strictly by mistaken reputation.

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Not really, no.

Maybe you are right. Mueller may have fallen further than MURRAY. As always it would depend upon whether the team is looking to move him or if a team is looking to acquire him. What’s an even type of trade for him in your mind?

 

[My3Sons]

What's up with Zacha? Slow development curve? Forced into more defensive duties?

Asked to play too high in the lineup as a project center. Given big defensive duties. Lost some confidence and struggling to find his offense which feeds off his confidence. Once he gets on that first big roll and feels like he can play with the better players at both ends of the ice I expect him to become the player NJ is hoping for.

 

[go4hockey]

Vatanen for Palmieri.

Ducks fly far far away from that offer. Not a chance.

 

[Viqsi]

What more could he be worth though? You don't want to overpay as you've highlighted there is some injury concerns, the offensive ceiling is probably limited although I have liked his first pass.

He'd be worth about what one would expect for a blueliner who can carry the second pairing and/or support the top pairing. That's dependent on the team in question and their depth at the position. Toronto, in particular, already has Rielly and Gardiner at LHD, so I wouldn't expect nearly as much interest.

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Maybe you are right. Mueller may have fallen further than MURRAY. As always it would depend upon whether the team is looking to move him or if a team is looking to acquire him. What’s an even type of trade for him in your mind?

A #2C of comparable age.

 

[Arthuros]

Asked to play too high in the lineup as a project center. Given big defensive duties. Lost some confidence and struggling to find his offense which feeds off his confidence. Once he gets on that first big roll and feels like he can play with the better players at both ends of the ice I expect him to become the player NJ is hoping for.

Interesting. Zacha seemed like a long shot for a trade option.

I wonder if NJ would be better off holding onto him, but I'd like to see the Ducks pry one of Zacha or Henrique away for something around Vatanen.

 

[Yatzhee]

Evander Kane

 

[Savant]

What's up with Zacha? Slow development curve? Forced into more defensive duties?

He isn’t very good. Poor hockey IQ.

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

Give it up.JVR doesn't get you Murray.Not even close.

Murray isn't very good anymore, stock isn't nearly as high as it was when he was drafted. I'd be asking for more than just Murray, especially if it's a sign and trade type thing ala Turris.

 

[WTFMAN99]

He'd be worth about what one would expect for a blueliner who can carry the second pairing and/or support the top pairing. That's dependent on the team in question and their depth at the position. Toronto, in particular, already has Rielly and Gardiner at LHD, so I wouldn't expect nearly as much interest.

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A #2C of comparable age.

Can he carry the 2nd pairing though? I was under the impression that Columbus's top 4 was fairly set as

Werenski-Jones
Johnson-Savard

 

[CBJx614]

Can he carry the 2nd pairing though? I was under the impression that Columbus's top 4 was fairly set as

Werenski-Jones
Johnson-Savard

Not so much. Whoever has been hottest that game has been getting the minutes. Some games it's Murray-Nuttivara, some games it's Johnson-Savard.

 

[CBJx614]

Murray isn't very good anymore, stock isn't nearly as high as it was when he was drafted. I'd be asking for more than just Murray, especially if it's a sign and trade type thing ala Turris.

Wut

 

[WTFMAN99]

Not so much. Whoever has been hottest that game has been getting the minutes. Some games it's Murray-Nuttivara, some games it's Johnson-Savard.

Fair enough, and it's not that hard to envision a scenario in which Johnson departs via trade or UFA and Murray moves up. Carlsson gets in that way as the organization is fairly high on him too.

 

[MichaelJ]

He isn’t very good. Poor hockey IQ.

Nonsense

 

[Gliff]

Ducks fly far far away from that offer. Not a chance.

Why? Move skill and salary to the fwd group.

 

[Halla]

Give it up.JVR doesn't get you Murray.Not even close.

Guy who is well on his way to a 30g/60+ pt season for Columbus #5 Dman is not even close?

I guess we can thank peter ciarelli for nonsense comments like this

 

[Pyrophorus]

leivo to florida? idk

In the division? Pay me...

 

[Beezeral]

Lets make a deal around an extended Rick Nash for Vincent Trocheck!

Lol no chance