Confirmed with Link: TRADE: Robinson, Stortini, 7th to SJ for Wingels

[Langdon Alger]

Can't believe we included a 7th round pick to get them to retain salary. Melnyk is so cheap!

 

[Cosmix]

First 30 days nothing covered then 80% I believe.

Question I have does he have to retire before there is any payout. I think that's the case but not sure, wonder what happened in Savard's case. Plus I think Mac gives it another go in September.

Also to the posters hoping for something big, PD said to Ian today that you don't give up blue chip prospects that are 1 -2 years away. Glad to hear hear, that probably means Chabot, White and Brown are not going anywhere.

Unless they gat a very good NHL player in return.

 

[jason2020]

Can't believe we included a 7th round pick to get them to retain salary. Melnyk is so cheap!

Ottawa likely asked for more San Jose said no but we will retain some of the salary.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

As long as the kid is a decent skater. We need wheels on the 4th line.

 

[Hutz]

Can't believe we included a 7th round pick to get them to retain salary. Melnyk is so cheap!

I hear Melnyk is flying him in economy class and he wouldn't even spend for an exit row seat.

 

[jason2020]

I hear Melnyk is flying him in economy class and he wouldn't even spend for an exit row seat.

Its funny people give Melynk a hard time yet a deal Toronto did early in the fall they had the other team retain and I did not hear Mlse so cheap.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Its funny people give Melynk a hard time yet a deal Toronto did early in the fall they had the other team retain and I did not hear Mlse so cheap.

Well, I was just kidding around in my post.

Very happy with the trade.

 

[Knave]

You can talk about salary all you want but the people on TSN claimed other teams couldn't make the numbers work.

Taking on unnecessary salary and cap hit just to send a message sounds like a tough guy smashing something over his head to prove how tough he is... and then he ends up in the hospital getting stitches.

 

[Boud]

You can talk about salary all you want but the people on TSN claimed other teams couldn't make the numbers work.

Taking on unnecessary salary and cap hit just to send a message sounds like a tough guy smashing something over his head to prove how tough he is... and then he ends up in the hospital getting stitches.

Yep.

Smart managing is not being cheap.

 

[Hutz]

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

You can talk about salary all you want but the people on TSN claimed other teams couldn't make the numbers work.

Taking on unnecessary salary and cap hit just to send a message sounds like a tough guy smashing something over his head to prove how tough he is... and then he ends up in the hospital getting stitches.

Well, he's UFA at the end of the season, so it's not like we're saddled with a bad contract for long. Besides, we definitely need an upgrade on the 4th line.


In other news, it's quite disappointing to see the lack of recognition around the league with Ottawa. I was checking out the Sharks board seeing their reactions of the trade, and you'd think Ottawa was last in the league or something, the way several posters talked. Funny thing, they are 9th in the league, while we are 11th with 3 less games played....yet somehow San Jose is a great team and Ottawa is trash.

 

[Bileur]

Well, he's UFA at the end of the season, so it's not like we're saddled with a bad contract for long. Besides, we definitely need an upgrade on the 4th line.


In other news, it's quite disappointing to see the lack of recognition around the league with Ottawa. I was checking out the Sharks board seeing their reactions of the trade, and you'd think Ottawa was last in the league or something, the way several posters talked. Funny thing, they are 9th in the league, while we are 11th with 3 less games played....yet somehow San Jose is a great team and Ottawa is trash.

It will be that much sweeter when we sweep them in the finals.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

You can talk about salary all you want but the people on TSN claimed other teams couldn't make the numbers work.

Taking on unnecessary salary and cap hit just to send a message sounds like a tough guy smashing something over his head to prove how tough he is... and then he ends up in the hospital getting stitches.

Its about 700k for the year as it turns out... not much of a deterrent

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I hear Melnyk is flying him in economy class and he wouldn't even spend for an exit row seat.

He was in Winnipeg... Bus him in

 

[derriko]

Ill admit I skipped the whole thread, but Ive been drinking so idgaf. Wingels can fly and forecheck, but is a bottom six forward as he is very limited in the creative offense department eh? Am I 100% off here?

Does this also mean Dzingel is all but sure gone to Vegas..?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Ill admit I skipped the whole thread, but Ive been drinking so idgaf. Wingels can fly and forecheck, but is a bottom six forward as he is very limited in the creative offense department eh? Am I 100% off here?

Does this also mean Dzingel is all but sure gone to Vegas..?

No Wingels is a UFA ... doubt it has an effect.
Wingels is being brought in for the 4th line. If he can unseat Pyatt on the 3rd .. so be it.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Its funny people give Melynk a hard time yet a deal Toronto did early in the fall they had the other team retain and I did not hear Mlse so cheap.

That was probably for cap reasons. I doubt MLSE cares about real dollars.

 

[spader]

That was probably for cap reasons. I doubt MLSE cares about real dollars.

I guarantee MLSE cares about real dollars.

 

[Altimus]

Just means Lazar is gonna have to light a fire under his ass to get ice time.

 

[Super Cake]

Well, he's UFA at the end of the season, so it's not like we're saddled with a bad contract for long. Besides, we definitely need an upgrade on the 4th line.


In other news, it's quite disappointing to see the lack of recognition around the league with Ottawa. I was checking out the Sharks board seeing their reactions of the trade, and you'd think Ottawa was last in the league or something, the way several posters talked. Funny thing, they are 9th in the league, while we are 11th with 3 less games played....yet somehow San Jose is a great team and Ottawa is trash.

I was listening to the Sens broadcast and i believe the announcers said that the Sens were finally starting to get some respect from the other teams.

So who the **** cares about what other fans say?

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I guarantee MLSE cares about real dollars.

Not when it comes to player contracts.

Ill admit I skipped the whole thread, but Ive been drinking so idgaf. Wingels can fly and forecheck, but is a bottom six forward as he is very limited in the creative offense department eh? Am I 100% off here?

Does this also mean Dzingel is all but sure gone to Vegas..?

Unless Wingels lights it up and re-signs before the draft, Dzingel will probably be protected if our line-up looks the same in June.

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

Ill admit I skipped the whole thread, but Ive been drinking so idgaf. Wingels can fly and forecheck, but is a bottom six forward as he is very limited in the creative offense department eh? Am I 100% off here?

Does this also mean Dzingel is all but sure gone to Vegas..?

Wingels will rarely - if ever - score a goal off a "snipe". Wingels scores on 1) tips, 2) rebounds, 3) scrums, and 4) odd man rushes and breakaways. I honestly think he is a very similar player to Pyatt... not quite as good defensively, a bit more physical, maybe a bit faster. Just like Pyatt, he is an ideal 4th liner who can play 3rd line duty and not cost you.

I haven't seen him much this year... sounds like he's fallen off a bit, but keep in mind that many Sharks fans said Wingels wasn't touchable in a Lehner trade. He used to be a legit 3rd liner who seemed to be trending in the direction of a Pageau or maybe even a Smith, but he's not nearly the impact player that those two are/can be. He will give you a solid 12-14 minutes, not many mistakes - especially in the neutral zone - and a decent utility player (i.e, I would rather have him move up the lineup in case of emergency illness than Kelly, even though Kelly played well tonight).

The acquisition will not affect Dzingel at all, although, if Wingels has that "just traded resurgence" and Dzingel doesn't pick it up a bit, Wingels might take some of Dzingels minutes. I doubt that though. Wingels is UFA. Immune from the expansion draft, but I think if he fits well with us and he is happy here, they will make every effort to bring him back.

 

[Tundraman]

I hear Melnyk is flying him in economy class and he wouldn't even spend for an exit row seat.

That's nothing!

Don't spread this around cause it may not be true but I heard that Bryan Murray is not really Irish they just said that because of the gift. Melnyk is giving Bryan his Air Miles and Ireland is as far as they would take him one way in economy.

btw) I think the 7th is worth a rental. 6th and 7th usually get you that. If he re-signs longer term that's a bonus.

 

[Beville]

I just want to hear by the PBP guy say "Wingles passes to Dzingel" or words to that effect...

Plus, Stortini and Robinson have no real future with the club anyway... Essentially a 7th round for a legit bottom 6-er.

How many players drafted between 180-210(?) have ever panned out significantly. No loss, easy trade "win". Good job Dorion.

 

[Iamtheliquor*]

Well, he's UFA at the end of the season, so it's not like we're saddled with a bad contract for long. Besides, we definitely need an upgrade on the 4th line.


In other news, it's quite disappointing to see the lack of recognition around the league with Ottawa. I was checking out the Sharks board seeing their reactions of the trade, and you'd think Ottawa was last in the league or something, the way several posters talked. Funny thing, they are 9th in the league, while we are 11th with 3 less games played....yet somehow San Jose is a great team and Ottawa is trash.

Fans of other teams just don't watch enough sens hockey to understand where the team is right now. I'll be the first to admit when I want to watch hockey and my team isn't playing I rarely watch sens games. Even with their success this season the whole brand and marketing around them screams mediocrity.(I'm not talking about the teams performance here)Unles you're a sens fan there isn't anything too exciting to watch sens wise.

If I'm going to watch other teams play its for various reasons like, Arenas, rivalries, excitement surrounding that team, etc. The CTC looks like an overused dark pit now compared to some of the nice rinks you can see on TV.

It's not that the team is bad, it's that there isn't alot of appeal to other viewers, or viewers from other legit hockey markets.