Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 64

[Benstheman]

What's Pelletier's ceilling?

 

[Mandalorian]

What's Pelletier's ceilling?

This article makes a Brad Marchand comparaison:
Jakob Pelletier Scouting Report: 2019 NHL Draft #28 -

Generally he is seen as a two-way, skilled and fast top 6 forward potential.

Here, it reports that some scouts saw Yzerman two-way play and leadership abilities in the young Pelletier:

https://thehockeywriters.com/jakob-pelletier-2019-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/

Not sure how accurate are these articles.

 

[Vachon23]

What's Pelletier's ceilling?

His character is so impressive that the celling can be really high. That kid is really special

 

[Benstheman]

His character is so impressive that the celling can be really high. That kid is really special

So asking Pelletier and 1st for Toffoli is a big reach.

 

[Vachon23]

So asking Pelletier and 1st for Toffoli is a big reach.

I would take Pelletier + 2nd round pick + Cap dump any time of the day

 

[EquabaleAce]

I would take Pelletier + 2nd round pick + Cap dump any time of the day

I also like an earlier proposal around Dvorak for Monahan and Pelletier, get a 1st and Jordan Spence for Toffoli from the Kings, they are loaded on RD

 

[Vachon23]

I also like an earlier proposal around Dvorak for Monahan and Pelletier, get a 1st and Justin Sparks for Toffoli from the Kings, they are loaded on RD

If Calgary want to do that go but I would be surprise

 

[McGees]

What's Pelletier's ceilling?

Stucco I think.

 

[Barriwhite]

Stucco I think.

Yuck

 

[webersshot]

NHL Rumors: Montreal Canadiens, Philadelphia Flyers, and a Top 35 Trade Bait Board - NHL Rumors

Were maybe thinking of signing johnny hockey in the summer because he was a MSL fan according to Lebrun

 

[McPhees Moustache]

NHL Rumors: Montreal Canadiens, Philadelphia Flyers, and a Top 35 Trade Bait Board - NHL Rumors

Were maybe thinking of signing johnny hockey in the summer because he was a MSL fan according to Lebrun

Seems like quite the stretch - he would be the most gifted offensive player we've had since Kovalev though...

 

[Heffyhoof]

This article makes a Brad Marchand comparaison:
Jakob Pelletier Scouting Report: 2019 NHL Draft #28 -

Generally he is seen as a two-way, skilled and fast top 6 forward potential.

Here, it reports that some scouts saw Yzerman two-way play and leadership abilities in the young Pelletier:

https://thehockeywriters.com/jakob-pelletier-2019-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/

Not sure how accurate are these articles.

Based on the usual ridiculous overblown comparisons for scouting reports I guess it means he's likely to be a solid middle sixer like a Toffoli but with a different skillset.

 

[WinterLion]

NHL Rumors: Montreal Canadiens, Philadelphia Flyers, and a Top 35 Trade Bait Board - NHL Rumors

Were maybe thinking of signing johnny hockey in the summer because he was a MSL fan according to Lebrun

That list must have been written by a Habs fan...

 

[McGees]

NHL Rumors: Montreal Canadiens, Philadelphia Flyers, and a Top 35 Trade Bait Board - NHL Rumors

Were maybe thinking of signing johnny hockey in the summer because he was a MSL fan according to Lebrun

The same way we are gonna sign every player that Hughes was the agent for

 

[General Fanager]

So asking Pelletier and 1st for Toffoli is a big reach.

I would do it for Pelletier straight up.

 

[Scriptor]

Build a team in St-Louis' image -- Caufield, Pelletier, Johnny hockey -- Line up anyone with skill and determination 5'9" and under...

 

[Runner77]

I can't see habs moving Dvorak and they shouldn't unless like petry, he asked to be moved. He's young, cost-controlled for 3 years and plays C. that's right C, the position we gutted again last summer. He stays as far as i'm concerned.

Depends on which Cs may come back in deals that Hughes makes between now and the TDL. I wouldn't exclude anything at this point, it's not as if Dvorak is a difference maker. We have a need at C with or without Dvorak -- it needs to be addressed regardless. Maybe Dvorak gets moved and Hughes lands some other C better than Dvorak? Wouldn't put it past him.

 

[Dutronc]

Gallagher and Toffoli vs Monahan and Pelletier.

Two negative value player + what they need top (top6 fire) + what we need (Grade A forward prospect)
Suzuki + Monahan + Dvo : we have something in the middle. Not the best but something

 

[McPhees Moustache]

Gallagher and Toffoli vs Monahan and Pelletier.

Two negative value player + what they need top (top6 fire) + what we need (Grade A forward prospect)

No way they're taking on that much salary on term unless they plan on walking away from Gaudreau and Tkachuk

 

[Dutronc]

No way they're taking on that much salary on term unless they plan on walking away from Gaudreau and Tkachuk

Fact. My bad.

Edit :

If we say we just say :

Monahan *6.375 x 2*
Pelletier *ELC 863k*
Tyler Pitlik *UFA 1.75* cap dump

Vs
Toffoli *4.25 x 3*
Armia *3.4 x 4*

 

[McPhees Moustache]

Fact. My bad.

Could still see something involving Toffoli and the flames though - feels like a plan B if a Giroux/Pavelski aren't available

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

There is no chance Calgary trades Pelletier for Toffoli. He's their top prospect, and Toffoli isn't returning a top prospect.

 

[Dutronc]

If we take Monahan back I think we can get Jakob. Dump Armia is a pipe dream but Monahan is taking alot of Gaudreau $$

 

[Miller Time]

There is no chance Calgary trades Pelletier for Toffoli. He's their top prospect, and Toffoli isn't returning a top prospect.

That's a weird take...

A player of Toffoli's age, productivity & cap hit/contract should & would only get traded for a top prospect.

Pelletier being, arguably (I follow flames closely, I think many in their org would still consider Zary as having the higher NHL impact ceiling) the flames top prospect is one thing... but he's not a blue chip or can't miss elite prospect.

He's exactly the kind of prospect a toffoli type asset would require in trade imo.

Consider Patches return a few years back... a better prospect in Suzuki + 2nd... toffoli isn't Patches level, but he's the notch right below & on a better deal (cap % & term)...

 

[McPhees Moustache]

If we take Monahan back I think we can get Jakob. Dump Armia is a pipe dream but Monahan is taking alot of Gaudreau $$

Probably the only scenario where it's possible. Not sure they'll tackle paying to shed Monahan's salary before the deadline unless they have agreement's on new deals for Gaudreau/Tkachuk already worked out. If one of the 2 doesn't stay then they don't really need to deal Monahan