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This is the time of year I really wish we had a dedicated beat writer with some connections. The Thrashers old writer pretty much sucked, too.
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Agree with this- and I would also like to see some other top teams records against the "elite" teams. Because you aren't usually going to have a dominant record against the top teams.
I'd also like to see how many of those were on the road and on the 2nd back of back to backs. I know the first Anaheim game was the 2nd night of a back to back and we lost in a shootout.
The Calgary losses are the ones I don't get, but then again they were very early in the season.
The Calgary losses are the ones I don't get, but then again they were very early in the season.
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Anaheim is
Chicago 1-2
San Jose 0-4
Nashville 2-0 (one OTSO win)
St. Louis 2-0
So against those 5 they’re 5-6
deanwormer
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about what you expect, right? play 500 against the teams that are your equal, feast on those below.
thecloser
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I think it's a lock to say we are going for it with Cody Franson. There have been so many articles about Franson being the main "get" for us at the deadline. I know the Ducks and Stars are going real hard for him too.
There was an article from Bob McKenzie on Bleacher report about it but I can't copy and paste it so sorry about that. It mentioned Kessel too but I'm starting to think more and more that, that would be a draft day deal. I do know, maybe all too obviously, that they are shopping Phaneuf and Kessel exclusively to Western Conference teams.
I'd take Franson, but not if it means sending our 1st rd pick for him. I'd rather have that in our pocket on draft day and use it towards a package for Kessel or someone else we may have targeted we don't know about.
There was an article from Bob McKenzie on Bleacher report about it but I can't copy and paste it so sorry about that. It mentioned Kessel too but I'm starting to think more and more that, that would be a draft day deal. I do know, maybe all too obviously, that they are shopping Phaneuf and Kessel exclusively to Western Conference teams.
I'd take Franson, but not if it means sending our 1st rd pick for him. I'd rather have that in our pocket on draft day and use it towards a package for Kessel or someone else we may have targeted we don't know about.
If Franson really wants to get paid this summer...no thanks. Especially if it involves a 1st.
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thecloser
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just some things to read and add fuel to the fire that is this discussion board.
Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun: As many as six to eight teams have shown interest in Chris Neil, including the Blackhawks, Predators, Blues and Jets. Neil would like to stay with the Senators, but in the end he can’t entirely control the situation.
Josh Cooper: Maple Leafs GM Dave Nonis is still in Nashville and watched the Preds-Ducks game last night. Nonis is looking to sell and the Preds and Ducks are buying.
Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal:The Capitals should trade Jason Chimera.
Wonder if Hurricanes GM Ron Wilson has called to see if they’d be interested in Alex Semin if they picked up some salary.(talking about the Caps but could be a possibility with salary retained.)
Hope Smoke: Bob McKenzie on TSN Radio: “What the Leafs must do is stock the cupboard with picks & prospects & that’s why Hunter was brought in. No quick fix here. The Leafs won’t make a few trades & turn things around. They’re going to turn guys like Santo/Winnik into picks. Absolutely there needs to be changes to the core, but that’s something that will happen in the summer.” “I think the Leafs have been looking at the Preds & their farm team. There are some players on the Leafs who interest the Preds” “I think the Preds & Ducks are two teams looking to capitalize on being the best teams in the regular season this year” “I would suspect the Preds & Leafs will have something to talk about, but that doesn’t mean anything is imminent”
Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun: As many as six to eight teams have shown interest in Chris Neil, including the Blackhawks, Predators, Blues and Jets. Neil would like to stay with the Senators, but in the end he can’t entirely control the situation.
Josh Cooper: Maple Leafs GM Dave Nonis is still in Nashville and watched the Preds-Ducks game last night. Nonis is looking to sell and the Preds and Ducks are buying.
Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal:The Capitals should trade Jason Chimera.
Wonder if Hurricanes GM Ron Wilson has called to see if they’d be interested in Alex Semin if they picked up some salary.(talking about the Caps but could be a possibility with salary retained.)
Hope Smoke: Bob McKenzie on TSN Radio: “What the Leafs must do is stock the cupboard with picks & prospects & that’s why Hunter was brought in. No quick fix here. The Leafs won’t make a few trades & turn things around. They’re going to turn guys like Santo/Winnik into picks. Absolutely there needs to be changes to the core, but that’s something that will happen in the summer.” “I think the Leafs have been looking at the Preds & their farm team. There are some players on the Leafs who interest the Preds” “I think the Preds & Ducks are two teams looking to capitalize on being the best teams in the regular season this year” “I would suspect the Preds & Leafs will have something to talk about, but that doesn’t mean anything is imminent”
I went ahead and took the time to see what it looks like for all the teams and this is how they alll stack up.
Anaheim 10-9-2 (22 points out of 42) Point %52.4
St Louis 11-8-2 (24 points out of 42) Point %57.1
Nashville 5-7-6 (16 out of 36 points) Point %44.4
Tampa Bay 11-4-2 (24 points out of 34) Point %70.6
Detroit 7-4-3 (17 point out of 28) Point %60.7
Montreal 10-8-1 (21 points out of 38) Point %55.3
NY Islanders 13-8-0 (26 points out of 42) Point %61.9
Pittsburgh 9-7-4 (22 points out of 40) Point %55.0
NY Rangers 10-9-2 (22 points out of 42) Point %52.4
Chicago 13-6-1 (27 points out of 40) Point %67.5
San Jose 10-7-3 (23 points out of 40) Point %57.5
Calgary 8-11-2 (18 points out of 42) Point %42.9
So looking at all these teams stats vs each other you can see that only Calgary has a worse point percentage than Nashville. The one thing I would like to note however is the 4 skills competition losses the Preds have had in these games. That won't happen in the playoffs. If you go by these stats it will end up being a Chicago/Tampa Bay Stanley Cup final.
How many of those games did Hutton play? I can think of 4 off the top of my head, all losses.
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2nd to dead last in that group of teams ? ... good point on Hutton ... yeah what is the Hutton effect on our point % wrt those group of teams ?
Our record with Hutton in net vs top teams would be 1-1-4. That would make us 4-6-2 with Rinne in net. Point percentage is better with Hutton in net oddly enough.
So many vairables go into this however. When the games fall in the schedule as far as back to backs or long breaks and what not.
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Lots of factors can go into records. Did you catch a team slumping? Were they hot? Did they have a major injury bug? Home vs Away? Scheduling as far as back to back or several games in a week? Backup Goalie? Start of season before they got it together?
There is a reason they make you play the games in the playoffs and the regular season is just about placement. That doesn't mean that the regular season tells you nothing, it just doesn't tell the entire story, especially with the way the trade deadline is set up in the NHL.
There is a reason they make you play the games in the playoffs and the regular season is just about placement. That doesn't mean that the regular season tells you nothing, it just doesn't tell the entire story, especially with the way the trade deadline is set up in the NHL.
Pred303
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interesting point on the record against top 12 teams. what it shows me is something I think most of us already knew deep down, we're not really an 'elite' level team talent wise against the best in the league quite yet. but against the bottom 18 teams we're better than anyone else. speaks to our consistency of effort more than anything else to me. to me this sort of confirms our talent level is a little below a few teams. but few if any have matched our ability to show up and give that nightly effort.
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Filip Forceberg
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I won't either ... we need to improve our forward corp, top to bottom (move Smith to the middle 6, lose OJ) (without getting rid of important pieces)
How about bringing in Kessel, Stafford & an upgrade on our bottom pair ?
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Armourboy
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Franson doesn't bother me as long as we aren't giving up a ton for him. If nothing else, it gives us a bit of insurance if something happens to Ellis or someone else.
We definitely need to upgrade the bottom though, whether that's by adding top guys and moving others down, or by going out and getting those more traditional 3rd line guys.
I don't think the 3rd is that bad, the line just needs someone who can put the puck in the net on some of the chances they create. Cullen can't put it in to save his life and neither can Bourque.
We definitely need to upgrade the bottom though, whether that's by adding top guys and moving others down, or by going out and getting those more traditional 3rd line guys.
I don't think the 3rd is that bad, the line just needs someone who can put the puck in the net on some of the chances they create. Cullen can't put it in to save his life and neither can Bourque.
Byrddog
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I liked Franson when he was here but im fine either way if we pick him up fine or not. There is a need for a more gritty defenseman the Quackers game shows we need more physical players.
They need to bring in a defenseman at the deadline for depth for sure, I doubt Franson will be around that long. Poile needs to fine at least two forward preferably wingers for the stretch as well. At 49 contracts he will have to find a dancing partner to move some contracts so what teams right now are willing to do that. Buffalo is really the only one that comes to mind but there gonna want Fiala as well and theres really nothing there going to trade that will make a difference for this run. Chris Stewart maybe for the 3rd line.
Its too bad that some of the guys on the roster can't step up and contribute more.
They need to bring in a defenseman at the deadline for depth for sure, I doubt Franson will be around that long. Poile needs to fine at least two forward preferably wingers for the stretch as well. At 49 contracts he will have to find a dancing partner to move some contracts so what teams right now are willing to do that. Buffalo is really the only one that comes to mind but there gonna want Fiala as well and theres really nothing there going to trade that will make a difference for this run. Chris Stewart maybe for the 3rd line.
Its too bad that some of the guys on the roster can't step up and contribute more.
Pred303
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yep.. Toronto basically gave away two ahl'ers for nothing in order to drop their contracts from 50 to 48... expect a 3 for one deal coming for them very soon
Saw that and immediately thought Kessel. Maybe Phaneuf, I guess.
If we make a Kessel deal - which is looking more and more likely IMO - I see Smith as the centerpiece. He was held out of practice today and it just makes sense to give them a replacement. I think we also add a higher tier future (Fiala/1st) and a mid tier future (Kamenev, Aberg, Saros, Watson, 2nd, Sissons, Diaby, Daughtery). Probably Stalberg for cap reasons.
Smith+Fiala+2nd+Stalberg for Kessel
Smith+1st+Kamenev+Stalberg for Kessel
Something like that.
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