Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] T.J. Brodie signs with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $5M AAV)

[hotpaws]

I am late to the party but Hutch was soo bad for us, literally threw away at least 14 points

Hutch was 4-9-1 , throwing away at ''least 14 points'' would mean you believe he should have had a record 11-2-1 or better . He lost us some points but not anywhere close to ''at least 14'' .

 

[Dekes For Days]

You haven’t laid a single thing out.

I laid it out multiple times, very clearly, and provided additional explanation when you weren't understanding. Not really sure what else I can do.

False

It is not false. There were other changes, and shootouts are not hockey; they are a gimmick that is not representative of team quality.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Well you are the one that started the derailing of this thread by crapping on a Flames player.
All I said was that Brodie going to Toronto was the best thing for Andersson as it will give him a chance to play on the first d-line with Gio and learn from him and prove he has the talent to stay there.
... then you the opportunity to crap on a Flames player by saying that no way was Andersson a #2 d-man.... and the derail began.

And nobody wants to go to your OOT to discuss this and put up with the shit and abuse that will come about by posting there... as frequently happens when other fans do post there.

This is what you guys do, a narrative is made up and you guys copy it. That’s not what I did, I complimented gio and yes I stated that Andersson is not a #2 defencemen. It’s absolutely absurd and in no way controversial. But we got to reel it back, you keep talking about andersson in this thread and I want to move on.

I’ll @ you in the Oilers OOT thread.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I laid it out multiple times, very clearly, and provided additional explanation when you weren't understanding. Not really sure what else I can do.

It is not false. There were other changes, and shootouts are not hockey; they are a gimmick that is not representative of team quality.

You may not like it but they are part of the game

 

[Dekes For Days]

You may not like it but they are part of the game

The league can do whatever they want, but I'm discussing actual hockey. A team is not better or worse at hockey because they won or lost some shootouts, but some people have convinced themselves of that because they refuse to look or consider anything beyond one singular raw point number.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

The league can do whatever they want, but I'm discussing actual hockey. A team is not better or worse at hockey because they won or lost some shootouts, but some people have convinced themselves of that because they refuse to look or consider anything beyond one singular raw point number.

This guy is back. Fight the power..,.or start your own league where your stats matter

 

[hotpaws]

This guy is back. Fight the power..,.or start your own league where your stats matter

yup in the ''actual hockey stats'' that poster uses the Leafs won the cup again to make it 4 straight wins

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Even if they picked Schneider he's not playing next year

That might be a problem: short term vision...

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Hutch was 4-9-1 , throwing away a ''least 14 points'' would mean you believe he should have had a record 11-2-1 or better . He lost us some points but not anywhere close to ''at least 14'' .

Lmao, your logic is on point. No way he can recover from that.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

That might be a problem: short term vision...

I don't see short term vision from management, 2019 was the only year since 2010 they haven't had a 1st round pick, teams that have short term vision gut their farm system the Leafs haven't done that, in fact they have rebuilt it.

 

[Dekes For Days]

or start your own league where your stats matter

The stats I use and information I consider already matter in the NHL, and provide a much clearer picture of what's going on and why.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The league can do whatever they want, but I'm discussing actual hockey. A team is not better or worse at hockey because they won or lost some shootouts, but some people have convinced themselves of that because they refuse to look or consider anything beyond one singular raw point number.

That's because raw point totals decide the standings and therefore playoff spots

 

[Dekes For Days]

That's because raw point totals decide the standings and therefore playoff spots

That's nice, but we're not discussing playoff spots. And actually, raw point totals don't even depict the standings, because standings are relative. The 2017-2018 team and 2018-2019 team had different raw point totals, but had the same place in the standings.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Cmon 41 pages??? Really?

 

[Martin Skoula]

That's because raw point totals decide the standings and therefore playoff spots

Looking back on past seasons, sure, raw point totals are the only thing you need because it already happened. That doesn't mean that past raw totals are useful as a predictive tool for the future. Winning or losing 10 shootouts completely changes a team's record even though they're neither better nor worse at playoff hockey where shootouts don't matter. Your team going from 10 SOL to 10 SOW does not mean your team has improved, just like the opposite doesn't mean your team got worse.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Cmon 41 pages??? Really?

Leafs generate discussion You should know that by now

 

[Legion34]

That's because raw point totals decide the standings and therefore playoff spots

but just to be clear....... percentage points on half finished seasons are raw points?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

but just to be clear....... percentage points on half finished seasons are raw points?

What half finished season? surely not this year, the played 70 games

 

[topshelf15]

Ottawa fan right?
I cant think of a good enough joke for the bolded...I'm ashamed




Lemme guess, they were too young and inexperienced to do anything a few years ago? Too small and weak last year....

You're running out of runway Sens fan.

Lol ,again have I said anything that isnt true???That bottom 6 is garbage,and will again have the leafs out early should they make the playoffs at all...This isnt me running the Leafs down this is pretty much fact...Dubas should be on thin ice ,as he has done nothing but shed good players for older ones

 

[Dekes For Days]

Lol ,again have I said anything that isnt true?

Yes. The majority of what you've said in this thread.

 

[topshelf15]

Yes. The majority of what you've said in this thread.

Really...Thorton,Spezza and Simmonds along with Vesey....Says what it is right there..Doesnt scream hard to play against at all

 

[FerrisRox]

The league can do whatever they want, but I'm discussing actual hockey.

National Hockey League games, when tied, include shootouts. It's actual hockey. It's ridiculous to pretend that it's not.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Really...Thorton,Spezza and Simmonds along with Vesey....Says what it is right there..Doesnt scream hard to play against at all

Thornton and Simmonds are not soft players but people keep saying they are

 

[FerrisRox]

A team is not better or worse at hockey because they won or lost some shootouts, but some people have convinced themselves of that because they refuse to look or consider anything beyond one singular raw point number.

These are the same bozos that have convinced themselves that the team that wins the most playoff games is somehow the best and refuse to look at any other metrics beyond that.

Idiots.

 

[topshelf15]

Thornton and Simmonds are not soft players but people keep saying they are

There were hard players 5 or 6 years ago,now they are old and slow....My point is that Dubas has done a horrible job at putting correct balance in this lineup...With the talent that team has up front there is no freaken way they should still be looking for their first playoff win...